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Old 06-21-2017, 07:20 PM   #1
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Default Electrical issues

So Saturday, I noticed that my car wasn't starting until I released the key then it would crank right up. It continued to do this through Sunday. Monday morning I went out and the car would not start at all. I tried to jump it to no avail. I hear the solenoid click when I turn the key to start, but that's it. I also noticed that the headlights aren't coming on when you turn the key on or when you unlock the car with the fob. They come on with the manual switch just fine. A Mechanic buddy of mine came by with his portable jumping testing device and that wouldn't start it either, it did however say that the battery was good. At first he thought it might be the ignition switch, but now that the headlights aren't coming on with the key or the fob, He is second guessing that. Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA

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Old 06-21-2017, 08:48 PM   #2
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Some background history is needed; year, mileage, maintenance done, parts replaced. Short cutting to one item - if the starter was never replaced with well over 100k miles on it, it may be worn out. Less mileage if this car is used frequently for short trips.

As usual, main power is considered the first place to start; battery, battery cables and their condition, main ground connections to chassis and engine block.

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Old 06-22-2017, 07:19 PM   #3
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As fdryer suggested....start at the battery, remove the cables, clean and reattach. Borrow a multimeter and measure the battery output. How old is the battery?

Background on the vehicle helps. Mileage....northern car?...battery age...car keep inside or outside the garage?

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Old 06-28-2017, 10:09 PM   #4
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Hi, i had the same issue a few weeks ago, one day the vue wouldnt start, just the solenoid click and norhing else, battery was fine tried to jump start with another car battery and nothing, dealer said there was a problem with the negative cable that goes to battery so they solder the cable in the place where it joins with the terminal, so far so good.

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Old 06-30-2017, 07:49 AM   #5
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Hi, i had the same issue a few weeks ago, one day the vue wouldnt start, just the solenoid click and norhing else, battery was fine tried to jump start with another car battery and nothing, dealer said there was a problem with the negative cable that goes to battery so they solder the cable in the place where it joins with the terminal, so far so good.
Soldering any cable is highly suspect. If a terminal is loose, typically a cable is re-terminated...or more commonly, the replacement cable which comes with terminals...one side for battery, the other to solenoid terminal...is replaced.

But I do agree, that this electrical issue maybe cable related. We haven't heard back from the OP with an update.

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Old 07-10-2017, 02:24 PM   #6
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Hi, my VUE started again with the issue, when starting i hear only the solenoid click and no crank at all, the i try again and crank just fine, i've reattached the ground points that goes to the negative battery cable and cleaned the contacts, still happening sometimes, this behavior can be caused by a faulty battery?

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Old 07-10-2017, 02:54 PM   #7
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Sorry, what i meant was " i hear only the starter relay click and no crank at all"

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Old 07-10-2017, 04:27 PM   #8
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Did you review post#2? If battery cables are fine, what's the condition of the battery? Tested at your local auto store? Last is the starter after normal wear and tear.

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Old 07-13-2017, 07:58 AM   #9
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Hi, should i make a voltage drop test with the battery cables? besides the battery test.

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1. Measure battery static voltage with a multimeter most should own as a household tool.. If less than 12.5 V without load, the battery will unlikely spin the starter even hearing the solenoid engage.

2. If battery more than 3-4 years old, replace it. Don't screw around with it.

3. If battery is relatively young, you have adequate voltage after a charge etc, remove the battery if you can't start the car and take the battery to autoparts store for a load test. This will determine its cranking power and status of the cells within the battery.

4. So the battery is the cornerstone of any electrical issue. If battery is good after a trickle charge, but voltage is low after a drive, then you need to check the status of alternator...if it increases voltage when the car is running.
But always start with the battery and if a few years old replace it.

From there, status of the cables and grounds need to be evaluated. If fresh battery voltage is 13 V +, you hear the solenoid and the engine won't crank, then likely your starter has failed.

In summary:
a. Battery status based upon age and above.
b. Starter status based upon overall vehicle mileage. Not uncommon to have starter failure approaching 100K miles. Not a certainty a starter will fail at this mileage but not unexpected either.

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Unless you're well aware of how to perform a voltage drop test, the general battery test is described here and used by every auto store selling car batteries as a load test where a large load is placed on a battery for thirty seconds or a minute. The load is basically toaster elements that heat up and turns red hot. Large current is pulled from a battery, as much as 50+ amps to see how well it recovers, voltage wise. A battery load test is the best way to determine how good a battery is and relative to how long it can last. Good batteries cost a good penny and generally lasts the life of a typical five or six year warranty and then dies. Knowing how old your battery is helps to determine whether or not it's the problem right now or if it can last thru several more winters (in snow country).

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