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Old 06-05-2007, 10:46 PM   #1
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The tire shop said I needed to replace my subframe. I checked it out and it was battered up a nice bit. They told me 2k+ for everything I needed and I just smiled and left. So I'm going to replace it myself. Anyone have some steps and advice?

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Old 06-05-2007, 11:10 PM   #2
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This is a cut and paste from the How To section posted by Woflman.
2k sounds high and unless they are trying to gouge you I'd guess they quoted for other replacement parts like the control arms.


Cradle removal: (abbreviated but easy enough to follow)

Jack up the car and support it with jackstands. You MUST get the car (measured at the frame) AT LEAST 16 inches off the ground.

Remove both front wheels and inner splash shields.

Remove the front (engine) splash shield from under the radiator

Seperate the tierod ends from the knuckle (both sides)
NOTE: This is NOT 100% necessary, BUT it can help to make removing the steering rack to cradle bolts easier, so I recommend you do so.

Seperate the ball joints from the knuckle. LEAVE the knuckles with brake componants, drive axles and struts still attached "hanging"

Support the engine and transaxle from ABOVE using a couple of appropriate length 2X4's layed accross the upper radiator support to the firewall upper portion and some STRONG rope/chain/cable through the lifting eyes. MAKE SURE that the engine/transaxle WILL NOT drop down when the cradle is removed from beneath them. ("Hanger" MUST be TIGHT before proceeding)

Remove the three nuts holding the exhaust down pipe to the manifold and the bracket and/or rubber hangers just forward of the catalytic convertor. Allow the down pipe to sag down (no need to remove it)

Remove the two bolts securing the steering rack to the cradle

Remove the LOWER engine dogbone mount and LOWER transaxle to cradle mount.

Tie the radiator SECURELY to the upper radiator support with some STRONG twine.

Break loose, but DO NOT REMOVE the 4 cradle to space frame bolts. ENSURE THAT NOTHING IS NOW ATTATCHED TO THE CRADLE! (except the lower control arms and sway bar) THEN remove the REAR cradle bolts FIRST. Support the FRONT of the cradle with a floor jack and THEN remove the front cradle attaching bolts.

SLOWLY lower the cradle making SURE that the RADIATOR does NOT come down with it and that NOTHING else is still attached or interfering with it lowering.

Drag the cradle with the sway bar and lower control arms still attached out the FRONT of the car, OVER the still attached exhaust pipe.

Install is reverse (LOL) DO NOT FORGET to use the front cradle alignment holes (mentioned in a post above) to align the cradle BEFORE tightening the bolts.

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Old 06-06-2007, 01:51 PM   #3
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thx, takes a couple of days i assume?

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Old 06-06-2007, 03:09 PM   #4
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thx, takes a couple of days i assume?
Couple of hours if you know what you're doing.

If you don't, shouldn't take more than 6 hours.

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Old 06-12-2007, 05:05 PM   #5
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so i dropped the subframe np. When i searched pikapart

http://www.pickapart.com/pickyourpartparts.php

for pricing it gives me 2 prices, which one is correct?

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so i dropped the subframe np. When i searched pikapart

http://www.pickapart.com/pickyourpartparts.php

for pricing it gives me 2 prices, which one is correct?
Someone else's! I take it you typed "subframe" into the search, right? How can they just puke out a price, without reference to make, model, year, whether they have it, etc.? And a $20 core? WTF would they want with a core subframe? Not to mention that the lower price is ouchy high (I would expect $50-100), and the higher price must be for a gold-plated one.

Try http://www.car-part.com . You can search by distance from your home, brand, model, year (and it knows what other models/years match).

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Old 06-13-2007, 06:40 PM   #7
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pick a part is the the best bet here in CA for pulling parts, it's not a saturn specific part place or watever. I just go and pull my part and pay for it.

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pick a part is the the best bet here in CA for pulling parts, it's not a saturn specific part place or watever. I just go and pull my part and pay for it.

The Pick-n-Pulls out here charge $29.99 for it.

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