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Old 08-11-2009, 01:46 PM   #1
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Default MT fluid for 2000 SL2?

Hey all,
Does anyone know what type of gear oil the manual takes for a 2000 SL2?

Capacity, weight, GL4/5? I don't have the service manual.
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Old 08-11-2009, 01:54 PM   #2
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Automatic tranmission Fluid.

I use Mobil 1 ATF. Old nuc has liked another type....crap I forget the name of it haha

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Old 08-11-2009, 01:57 PM   #3
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Seriously? The manual tranny uses ATF? Wierd.

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Old 08-11-2009, 02:03 PM   #4
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Amsoil Torque-Drive or Allison/Castrol Transynd. Both are in teh $40.00/gal range but you only have to change it once. You get the Amsoil from your local Amsoil dealer and the Transynd from the truck stop.

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Old 08-11-2009, 02:04 PM   #5
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Yep, DO NOT put gear oil in it. ON uses Amsoil Torque-Drive which is originally spec'd for heavy duty Allison transmissions.

Edit: He even beat me to it

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Old 08-11-2009, 02:04 PM   #6
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Amsoil Torque-Drive or Allison/Castrol Transynd. Both are in teh $40.00/gal range but you only have to change it once. You get the Amsoil from your local Amsoil dealer and the Transynd from the truck stop.
thanks, I was about to place an amsoil order so figured I'd ask.
How much do I need? (capacity?)

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Old 08-11-2009, 02:06 PM   #7
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thanks, I was about to place an amsoil order so figured I'd ask.
How much do I need? (capacity?)
The manual trans should only take 2.5L and I believe it says on the dipstick (but it will say in the owners manual for sure) I'm pretty sure the smallest quantity of torque-drive you can buy is 1 gallon or 3.79L. You can use the extra torque-drive in the power steering pump (remove as much old P/S fluid as possible from the reservoir with a turkey baster )

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Old 08-11-2009, 02:12 PM   #8
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I'm pretty sure the smallest quantity of torque-drive you can buy is 1 gallon
you are correct:
h t tp://w w w.amsoil.com/storefront/atd.aspx

guess I'll just hit the store for good ATF. Thanks guys, you rock!
Car's still running strong although it's burning/using more and more engine oil as it gets older. But, we're planning on keeping it till the bitter end so I'm trying to replace as many of the fluids as possible.
Last month I was forced to replace all of the dexcool when the radiator bit the dust.

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Old 08-11-2009, 02:15 PM   #9
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you are correct:
h t tp://w w w.amsoil.com/storefront/atd.aspx

guess I'll just hit the store for good ATF. Thanks guys, you rock!
Car's still running strong although it's burning/using more and more engine oil as it gets older. But, we're planning on keeping it till the bitter end so I'm trying to replace as many of the fluids as possible.
Last month I was forced to replace all of the dexcool when the radiator bit the dust.
MAKE SURE it is Dexron III ONLY. The newer Dexrons' (they are on VI I think) have a LOWER viscosity than Dex III and they will cause shifting issues when warm. Your best bet is to find some Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF because that still meets Dex III's viscosity rating and hardly any (if any at all) "dino oil" based ATF is Dex III only.

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Old 08-11-2009, 02:42 PM   #10
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Seriously? The manual tranny uses ATF? Wierd.
The last five vehicles my wife and I have owned, going back 20 years, all manuals, take ATF. Three Fords, a Saturn and a Mitsubishi. I wonder what anymore, besides differentials in RWD/4x4 vehicles, uses 80wXXX gear oil.

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Old 08-11-2009, 03:02 PM   #11
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The last five vehicles my wife and I have owned, going back 20 years, all manuals, take ATF. Three Fords, a Saturn and a Mitsubishi. I wonder what anymore, besides differentials in RWD/4x4 vehicles, uses 80wXXX gear oil.
it's the odd man out @ our house.

suzuki SX4 takes 75W-90 Gl4 gear oil, both toyota mr2's take GL-4 or 5 75W-90 or 80W-90. out of 4 cars, the saturn's the only one that takes ATF.

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Old 08-11-2009, 03:27 PM   #12
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Buy the gallon of Torque - Drive and you can use the leftover in the power steering. You remove the existing oil in the reservoir and refill, drive for a week and repeat 3 or 4 more times. Beats pulling lines.

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Old 08-12-2009, 03:06 PM   #13
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2.5 quarts? Crap. I think mine just took 3-4
(goes to check stupidly placed dipstick under ABS module...)

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suzuki SX4 takes 75W-90 Gl4 gear oil, both toyota mr2's take GL-4 or 5 75W-90 or 80W-90. out of 4 cars, the saturn's the only one that takes ATF.
Guessing the SX4 is AWD or 4WD? and the MR2s are RWD, and madpogue suggested these are what typically use the gear oils

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The type of oil required is determined by the cut of the gears. The gear oils are about the same viscosity as the other oils at operating temperature. The GL-4 and GL-5 gear oils will remove the clutch material from the synchronizers though. That is the very big reason to not use any GL classified oil in a Saturn transmission. Also avoid the GL-1 spec gear oils as they have no additives at all.

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The GL-4 and GL-5 gear oils will remove the clutch material from the synchronizers though. That is the very big reason to not use any GL classified oil in a Saturn transmission..

"Our most popular and versatile ATF, D4 is suitable for use where Dexron III, Dexron II, or Mercon fluids are recommended. D4 ATF is a fully-synthetic product designed to satisfy the improved low-temperature requirements which will be in the new Dexron IV specification, and the improved shear-stability requirements which will be part of the new Mercon specifications.

D4 ATF also provides a GL-4 level of gear protection, making it a superior product for transmissions and transaxles "

I hope that doesn't apply to the D4 because I just ordered it. Hopefully you can confirm this before I install the fluid.

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A "GL-4 level of protection" is not a GL-4 specification lubricant. They are making an oblique reference to the high film strength of a synthetic lubricant. Royal Purple is a 100% PAO synthetic oil. The D4 will be a good synthetic direct replacement for the plain ATF. If that does not prove satisfactory performance ther are other lubes from other sources that just might.

Of course its all just oil and use what ever you want as its all the same. /SNARK

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