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Old 07-04-2019, 01:11 AM   #5981
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I took a video featuring my red Saturn - at the end of the video.
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I haven't actually driven it this week as I've been driving the $200 Buick.

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Old 07-04-2019, 03:10 AM   #5982
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I took a video featuring my red Saturn - at the end of the video.
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I haven't actually driven it this week as I've been driving the $200 Buick.
too bad there was a kid's head in the way

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Old 07-04-2019, 09:44 AM   #5983
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I haven't actually driven it this week as I've been driving the $200 Buick.
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Old 07-04-2019, 12:36 PM   #5984
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I had gotten 4 window channels from the pick-a-part and when I was cleaning them up, this morning, junk started coming off the rubber. Lo and behold, the felt was coming off. So I stomped my feet, went into the house, oiled my 14U64A, replaced its belt, then ordered new 1/2" felt to fix these silly things.

On a positive note, to temporarily cover the vinyl damage on a small part of the dash where the instrument thingamajog butts up against the dash, I cut and placed a piece of raw edged split leather that closely matches the color wrap for my car.

At least I no longer have to see the damage until I decide what to do.

I may just line the leather with ripstop nylon and leave it as it is after stabilizing the vinyl damage. I actually looks better than the photo shows.


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Old 07-04-2019, 04:37 PM   #5985
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Changed the serpentine belt. I suspect it was the original. It took way too long to do it. It took several hours including renting the tool for the tensioner. I can do the one in my truck in minutes.

I now have more stuff to clean... inner fender liner. I also snapped all three screws that go into the front of the wheel well opening.

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Old 07-05-2019, 12:03 PM   #5986
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On my '98 I did the intake air sensor on the radiator hose mod. I've been getting great fuel economy, like 31-32 on my 14 mile work commute with traffic lights. However, as it warms up it gets very stumbly and low on power as well. I'm approaching E on the gauge, have about 300 miles on the trip meter, so again somewhere over 30. I moved the connector back to the stock sensor which I left in place. The driveability is immediately better. I'll see how I do for fuel economy on the next tank.

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Old 07-05-2019, 10:45 PM   #5987
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On my '98 I did the intake air sensor on the radiator hose mod. I've been getting great fuel economy, like 31-32 on my 14 mile work commute with traffic lights. However, as it warms up it gets very stumbly and low on power as well. I'm approaching E on the gauge, have about 300 miles on the trip meter, so again somewhere over 30. I moved the connector back to the stock sensor which I left in place. The driveability is immediately better. I'll see how I do for fuel economy on the next tank.
Taking your cue, I switched back. Mod is probably best Winter-Spring
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Old 07-06-2019, 04:22 PM   #5988
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I just did my serpentine belt. Took 30 minutes with the Harbor Freight tool.
I did end up pulling the tire off to get better access underneath.
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Changed the serpentine belt. I suspect it was the original. It took way too long to do it. It took several hours including renting the tool for the tensioner. I can do the one in my truck in minutes.

I now have more stuff to clean... inner fender liner. I also snapped all three screws that go into the front of the wheel well opening.

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Old 07-06-2019, 05:19 PM   #5989
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I just did my serpentine belt. Took 30 minutes with the Harbor Freight tool.
I did end up pulling the tire off to get better access underneath.
Different brand, but that looks exactly like what I tired to use. My issue with it, was that I couln't seem to get enough swing before hitting something with the handle. When I finally did get it, and had reattached the old stretched out belt again, and upon the second removal I left the tool on the tensioner instead of removing it for threading the new belt. Still I was barely able to get the new belt on. I still haven't looked at the tensioner so see where the arm is in relation to the stops. I'm still wondering if maybe the belt is just slightly too short. Since then I've noticed that the pulleys can be different sizes... 76mm vs. 90mm. I have no idea what I have, and the belt listings didn't specify, just with and with-out AC and a few specified power steering.

I need to get a new tensioner and a new idler, and probably a water pump. All three had some amount of slop... surprisingly the water pump doesn't seem to be leaking, noticeably. It wasn't much movement there, Though.

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Old 07-07-2019, 09:26 AM   #5990
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I've always done my serpentine belt with a wrench that I snapped a set of vise grips onto.

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Old 07-07-2019, 09:29 AM   #5991
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Taking your cue, I switched back. Mod is probably best Winter-Spring
So do you see a difference in drivability too? Mine was bad enough that I had bought a set of coils to throw on, which I haven't done yet. Once I get my $200 Buick proved out I'll be back to driving the '98 Saturn.

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Old 07-07-2019, 10:50 AM   #5992
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I still have my IAT mod on the radiator hose and have no drive-ability issues in the summer. I have this mod on both a 97 SC2 and 99 SC2, and we've been hitting 90+ def F ambient air temps lately.

I've experienced slightly better mileage... perhaps +1 or +2 MPG. I plan on leaving this in place.

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Old 07-07-2019, 11:19 AM   #5993
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I wonder if mine gets the ECTS too hot.


This was how I did mine.
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I wonder if mine gets the ECTS too hot.


This was how I did mine.
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Nice setup, and I would think that it should transfer the heat well.

I played with the IAT mod idea, and did notice it changed the characteristics of the throttle tip in some. Even with some blind A-B type testing I could tell the difference. My drive cycle at the time was too erratic for any useful MPG data though.

In the end, being I have an OBD I car, I was concerned that I shouldn't mess with what works, being that the OBD I cars at times are slow to set codes. I get good enough MPG to not risk any damage to the car. If I had OBD II I'd mess with it big time, since I could see trims and such.

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Old 07-07-2019, 12:06 PM   #5995
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The ECTS is a 1/8" male tapered pipe thread and the proper tap is cheap. If you bend it then it is possible to have 1 or both legs short internally to the brass shell. A single leg short is not an issue but if both make contact and by some fluke still read some value of resistance it will not set a fail code but will be so far out of range that it will be ignored by the PCM.

There re many detailed threads on this trick most with data. Try searching with DIYguy in the search.

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Old 07-07-2019, 12:16 PM   #5996
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I've read the DIYguy thread. I need live data to see what the inlet air temperature is. I am thinking it is sort of working though, as I only see the change in drivability as it warms up. I went with the press fit for good heat transfer. If I bored out the aluminum and threaded it the probe would be hanging out in the air.

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Old 07-07-2019, 12:56 PM   #5997
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Use thicker aluminum. The part that bent is where it is a pair of rather stiff wires that are not insulated.

If you feel the change then it is working.

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Why would anyone want to tell the PCM that the intake air temperature is almost equivalent to coolant temperature? That kind of temperature would likely be way outside the planned numbers in the programming of the PCM.

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That is not an out of range value as it is an underhood temperature amd it can get real close to coolant temps. If too high the PCM does drop it though and use the last known good value.

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In my ongoing saga of trying to get a functioning non leaking sunroof in my 98 SL2, I put compressed air to the drain tubes today. The rears were pretty clear and dry. Both of the fronts were wet and clogged though. The passenger front took a full 80psi to clear whatever was clogging it... Flows good now though! Going to scavenge a complete sunroof assembly from a local wrecker this week for one tiny little piece that I managed to break (my own darn fault...) Then I can put everything back together and hopefully be done with that project and move on to the next, the stereo system!

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