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Old 06-23-2019, 10:30 PM   #1
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Hello all. I own two saturns. Both of which burn the oil as they do. Is it a bad idea to instead of doing an oil change every 3k to just add oil and change filter every 6k-7k? I use the NAPA gold filters. and run walmart full synthetic.

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Old 06-23-2019, 10:54 PM   #2
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I vote no to that idea. I know people who have done it.

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Old 06-24-2019, 01:24 AM   #3
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I have to top off my oil and I still change oil and filter every 3K.
Whether or not you top it off, your filter will fill up with crud over time. When it fills up, the crud will remain in the oil circuits and could block an oil passage. Not a good idea.

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Old 06-24-2019, 07:55 AM   #4
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The reason I preferred to change it when mine was an oil burner was the oil was always filthy at 3000 miles. I'd rather get that out of the engine.

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Old 06-24-2019, 08:47 AM   #5
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The oil should be changed after you add 2 quarts of oil to return to the full mark and that oil change should occur before the level drops down to 1/2 quart low after the addition of that 2nd quart. The oil filter is incapable of removing all contaminants and that is why you change oil periodically.

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Old 06-24-2019, 10:38 AM   #6
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Q: How long using the Full Synthetic oil? - years or did you just switch over?

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On my '98 SL2, I pretty much used Walmart Supertech synthetic, the longer Purolator Pure One PL20195 filters, and had to add 3~9 ounces of oil every week to keep the oil just over the FULL line. Generally, did not allow oil level to drop below one or two diamonds on the dipstick.

Changed oil at roughly the 5k~6k mile mark. Then again, my drive cycle was fairly easy - mostly a steady cruise.

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Old 06-27-2019, 05:44 PM   #8
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Hello all. I own two saturns. Both of which burn the oil as they do. Is it a bad idea to instead of doing an oil change every 3k to just add oil and change filter every 6k-7k? I use the NAPA gold filters. and run walmart full synthetic.
Unless you like using a full gallon of oil between fillups, I am going to advise AGAINST this practice.

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Old 06-27-2019, 06:17 PM   #9
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Briggs and Stratton push lawn mower engines are all non oil change engines now. You just add oil as needed. The engineers figured the mower deck would rust out before the engine would give out hence the no oil changes. A different way of thinking.

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Old 06-27-2019, 10:50 PM   #10
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Hello all. I own two saturns. Both of which burn the oil as they do. Is it a bad idea to instead of doing an oil change every 3k to just add oil and change filter every 6k-7k? I use the NAPA gold filters. and run walmart full synthetic.
IMO there's not enough info here. How much oil does "burn the oil as they do" mean? How did you decide on 6k-7k intervals? Is this the standard size filter or the longer version? And why do you want to do this on a cheap, fake (Grp3) synthetic with a weaker additive pack?

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And why do you want to do this on a cheap, fake (Grp3) synthetic with a weaker additive pack?
There hasn't been any proven issues with the use of SuperTech since its introduction. The only thing you find is some random person complaining about it, which you see with every brand.
I think now that SuperTech Synthetic meets dexos1 Gen2 and SN Plus we can feel confident that it will be MORE than adequate to protect our Saturn's and arguably superior to a dino oil.
Because of it's price and being a synthetic I think it's the perfect choice.

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Old 06-29-2019, 02:05 AM   #12
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i change my filter every 5-7k depends on oil filter i use, if my oil is low i just top it up until i can do oil filter change, if i were you id just your top up oil until your oil change is at 6k-7k

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Briggs and Stratton push lawn mower engines are all non oil change engines now. You just add oil as needed. The engineers figured the mower deck would rust out before the engine would give out hence the no oil changes. A different way of thinking.
They have plastic camshafts also! On the one hand that is genius. On the other hand what were they thinking?

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It is a throw away lawn mower, motor and all.

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I have my grandfathers Montgomery Wards mower... B&S engine dated 1976! It was his new mower when my dad and I picked up his old K-mart mower.

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There hasn't been any proven issues with the use of SuperTech since its introduction. The only thing you find is some random person complaining about it, which you see with every brand.
I think now that SuperTech Synthetic meets dexos1 Gen2 and SN Plus we can feel confident that it will be MORE than adequate to protect our Saturn's and arguably superior to a dino oil.
Because of it's price and being a synthetic I think it's the perfect choice.
If you're going to be at Walmart anyway, why not just use Rotella T6 synthetic? That always did a great job of keeping my Saturn 4-bangers sludge free, it's fantastic oil, and is usually only about $20/gallon at WMT.

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It is a throw away lawn mower, motor and all.
All the consumer grade mowers are disposable these days. After blowing through a pair of Deere riders that I got from Home Depot (the transmissions are the weak link and the frame is pretty flimsy), I've decided to upgrade to a Kubota diesel compact tractor with a belly mower. They're built like the proverbial brick poop house.

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I think now that SuperTech Synthetic meets dexos1 Gen2 and SN Plus we can feel confident that it will be MORE than adequate to protect our Saturn's and arguably superior to a dino oil.
Because of it's price and being a synthetic I think it's the perfect choice.
For me dexos is not a spec I rely on for engine longevity. It's primary goal is to earn GM the regulatory $$ credit for a fuel efficient motor oil that lasts barely long enough to meet an "extended drain" label. I'm not familiar with Gen2, but the original dexos 1 & 2 oils could be dino oils and still meet the spec. And the OP's request was to never change the oil. I wouldn't choose a cheap Grp3 "synthetic" in that kind of application.

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If you're going to be at Walmart anyway, why not just use Rotella T6 synthetic? That always did a great job of keeping my Saturn 4-bangers sludge free, it's fantastic oil, and is usually only about $20/gallon at WMT.
This makes more sense to me, too. Is it price competitive to the Walmart oil?

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I think the T-6 is close enough to be cost competitive and at least it is a name brand product.

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For me dexos is not a spec I rely on for engine longevity. It's primary goal is to earn GM the regulatory $$ credit for a fuel efficient motor oil that lasts barely long enough to meet an "extended drain" label
Is there a specification without a conspiracy theory that you have confidence in?

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