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Old 05-25-2018, 05:12 PM   #1
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Default Aftermarket Headlight Options

Simple enough are there any. HID or Projectors would be nice. If not I'll just have to modify mine. I didn't think about searching ng to see if there is a how-2 thread of headlight mods...

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Old 05-25-2018, 05:46 PM   #2
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HID heat will most likely damage your stock plastic lens.
The S series is not projector, you would have to go to the L series for that.
For my own satisfaction, I have owned both S & L. After trying several options including LED, I came back to Sylvania SilverStar Ultra bulbs.
Bright WHITE penetrating light.
Kept using them until I sold both cars. Put almost 100,000 miles on the SW2 and the Ultras never burnt out.

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Old 05-25-2018, 08:37 PM   #3
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So those were just bulbs you put in the stock headlight?

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Old 05-25-2018, 09:51 PM   #4
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If you're looking for more light, search for the quad headlight mod. It allows the low beams to stay on when the high beams are on. Helps a lot, but no help when just on low.

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Old 05-26-2018, 11:55 AM   #5
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I would suggest the 9006 to 9012 modification, for the high beams.

You can use 9011 in the low, but it lacks paint on the tip.

I am exploring if glass lacquer paint on a 9011 bulb would work...

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Old 05-27-2018, 05:33 PM   #6
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HID heat will most likely damage your stock plastic lens.
The S series is not projector, you would have to go to the L series for that.
For my own satisfaction, I have owned both S & L. After trying several options including LED, I came back to Sylvania SilverStar Ultra bulbs.
Bright WHITE penetrating light.
Kept using them until I sold both cars. Put almost 100,000 miles on the SW2 and the Ultras never burnt out.

i strongly disagree about hid.. i have hid in my car and never damaged one lens simple is cause HID never get hot like a Halogen bulb

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Old 05-27-2018, 08:35 PM   #7
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Oh?
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"Temp of the glowing filament = 5,480 F
temp of the bulb glass = 1,340 F

for hid bulbs, which basically use an arc discharge.

temp of the plasma arc = 10,800 F"

(above from this:https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/for...-halogen/page2)

December 14th, 2010, 07:27 PM
i have the temp data in a different thread im still trying to find. bowl temps i just measured with IR thermometer which ive found to be fairly accurate. the thing you have to realize is proximity plays a big role in how stuff burns. even if the filament puts out a certain amount of heat, very rarely will it be distributed and vented evenly. it can form "hotspots" on the bowl (areas that are much hotter than you would expect). while the overall temps of the hid projector can be 100-180F, some parts i have seen get to around 200F. this is all surface temp too. inside the projector can trap heat much better and raise temps further. there are also different types of chrome finishes and usually material ratings are not very accurate. some of the highest temps listed on paint for example signify "pulse" heat resistance and not continuous use. your chrome coating is likely the same. anything over 250F and you are getting into engine manifold temps which can easily burn most types of coatings. but i wonder, have any of you guys heard about jet-hot.com coatings for exhaust parts? i have some on my header and even several yrs later it still has most of its original luster and shine. there is slight bit of yellowing. but this could be an option to chrome projector bowls that need serious heat resistance.

the data i got from old textbooks or white papers. its very hard to find stuff like this online where typing in hid bulb temp gives a million links to stupid hid kits. just wish i could find the data in that old thread.

finally found the halogen info. if you think these numbers are too high, remember that the filament is just a piece of metal wire with electrical charge moving thru it. you have to heat it up considerably before it starts to emit light (think about those large burner rods in your toaster oven that turn dull red when you turn it to high heat, its the same thing but with much more current and much smaller filament).

temp of the glowing filament = 5,480 F
temp of the bulb glass = 1,340 F

for hid bulbs, which basically use an arc discharge.

temp of the plasma arc = 10,800 F

of course plasma will be hotter than a glowing metal wire. but the temp is not really important so long as proximity of the light source to the projector is great enough. if you put the hid arc too close to the edge, it will burn chrome in no time. if you put it at a safe distance, it will not really cause damage since there is not much infrared being produced. the spectra of halogen and hid is so different, you really cannot compare the two at all. they are completely different in every possible way aside from the fact that they both "produce light of some kind." but i guess to answer the question, hid core is 2x hotter than halogen. its really not important for any other reason except maybe impressing your friends lol. as far as whats important, heat radiation, halogen wins hands down due to the infrared. when you tell people what kind of headlights you have, isnt it better to have plasma instead of glowing wire?

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Old 05-28-2018, 02:36 PM   #8
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No personal experience or opinion on HIDs, but a discount used to be available some time ago

http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=142481

For the love of all that is holy, please check your headlight aim after you do any changes. I came within a half second of being an accident because some ****** and their blinding headlights.

I flashed them probably four times because of how blinding it was at a distance. Even looking off to the side, it was blinding when we passed (they never changed to low beam or flashed high), and right after passing, a deer jumped out in front of me.

You should probably put the year/model in your signature, so we know what car we're talking about.

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