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Old 08-15-2016, 03:17 PM   #1
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I have a 2008 Vue Redline with 71K miles. It's starting to behave oddly and I'm fearing it's the transmission. I have plugged in my OBDII bluetooth scanner, but there are no codes. I also do not hear any strange noises.

1. Occasionally, when I'm coasting around 40 mph in traffic, and then give it a little gas to accelerate, the car starts bucking VERY hard. It's as if the car turned into a jack hammer. I can then let off the pedal to coast again, then give it a little gas. It will start hammering really hard again. I have to let it coast for a while and then it will act normally.

2. The other issue is when I'm traveling on the highway (65-70 mph) and then exit and come to a stop on the service road. Just when the car is about to come to a complete stop, the car will surge forward 1 time, really hard.

Does this sound like the wave-plate issue, or something else?

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Old 08-15-2016, 08:53 PM   #2
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I have the same symptom that you described in the first problem when coasting about 35 and lightly accelerate it does buck but not at bad as the way you described. I have a 2008 Vue XE with the 3.5 liter V6 with 118k miles on it.

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Old 08-15-2016, 08:54 PM   #3
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Also about once a month since I bought it back in January 2016, when I come to a complete stop, the engine will stall just as if I was driving a standard transmission without putting in the clutch. No codes show up at all. I just simply put it in neutral, restart the engine, back into drive and all is well.

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Old 08-15-2016, 09:30 PM   #4
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Also about once a month since I bought it back in January 2016, when I come to a complete stop, the engine will stall just as if I was driving a standard transmission without putting in the clutch. No codes show up at all. I just simply put it in neutral, restart the engine, back into drive and all is well.
Mine doesn't stall, it surges forward the one time and then it runs just fine. Really odd.

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Old 08-16-2016, 05:48 AM   #5
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Seems completely unrelated to 3-5-R trans issue.
Pretty astounding your OBDII isn't throwing any codes...sure would help root cause your issue.

A very long list of possibilities...complete dart board of options:
- fuel pump
- clogged fuel filter
- clogged or bad injector(s)
- dirty throttle body or MAF
- bad/intermittent spark plug wire
- could be bad electrical to your ignition system...or to your fuel management. All engine sensors work off of baseline voltage. If voltage is intermittent, you will have poor drivability.

Generally if you have a failing engine or even trans function you will get a code. Since you have no codes, I would probably start with a fuel filter, change air filter, reseat all your spark plug wires...run the engine in a dark garage to see if you have any arcing under the hood due to a bad wire. Maybe run some injector cleaner thru the engine. These types of issues that aren't blatant are hard to diagnose...especially with no codes. No codes suggests possibly an interruption of electricity to your engine. Your engine and trans ECM function based upon steady current. If the ECM isn't achieving steady and strong voltage, sensor resistance will be off resulting in poor drivability. Your fuse box may even be the root cause...corrosion which can cause dodgy electrical issues on Vues...or perhaps a bad engine ground.

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Old 08-16-2016, 08:00 AM   #6
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Not wave plate, could certainly be the transmission. Does your OBD II scanner show transmission faults? some do not. I wonder if the lock up torque converter is the culprit, symptoms match. Don't start throwing parts at it, that is a waste of money. It is NOT the air filter, cars run fine with dirty air filters unless they are plugged solid which is doubtful. Plug wires spark plugs would not give you the surging you are experiencing. Dirty fuel filters also do not act like you are describing. Good luck, lets us know what the outcome is.

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Old 08-16-2016, 07:22 PM   #7
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Not wave plate, could certainly be the transmission. Does your OBD II scanner show transmission faults? some do not. I wonder if the lock up torque converter is the culprit, symptoms match. Don't start throwing parts at it, that is a waste of money. It is NOT the air filter, cars run fine with dirty air filters unless they are plugged solid which is doubtful. Plug wires spark plugs would not give you the surging you are experiencing. Dirty fuel filters also do not act like you are describing. Good luck, lets us know what the outcome is.
It can be vestiges of a pending wave plate failure. Yes it could be related to torque converter lock up. It can also be a stuck clutch pack solenoid. You do NOT know if its related to the air filter. ALWAYs do PM as first foray..like change a air filter and/or fuel filter if say over a 100K miles and air filter hasn't been changed in 25K miles. A plug or plug wire CAN induce surging/bucking due to electrical cross talk arcing/shorting.

You have no idea what the problem is. Neither do I. Yes, throwing parts needlessly at the issue is the wrong approach. But addressing typical service issues...like cleaning the MAF and throttle body...pulling the plugs and looking at them...measuring alternator/battery voltages etc are all solid steps.

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Old 08-16-2016, 09:04 PM   #8
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Great advice from all of you. I'm looking to sell it, and want to make sure any major issue is resolved. Not about to sell a problem to somebody. I have a strong moral compass.

I'm going to perform the 100K mile maintenance items and go from there. Hopefully, that will resolve it. I do know the voltage is a little low on the battery, but it turns over just fine. I may need to do that, too.

I had a 2000 Infiniti long ago with a battery not producing the proper voltage. It caused the transmission to stay in 1st gear. Will keep the post updated.

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Old 08-17-2016, 01:32 PM   #9
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Great advice from all of you. I'm looking to sell it, and want to make sure any major issue is resolved. Not about to sell a problem to somebody. I have a strong moral compass.

I'm going to perform the 100K mile maintenance items and go from there. Hopefully, that will resolve it. I do know the voltage is a little low on the battery, but it turns over just fine. I may need to do that, too.

I had a 2000 Infiniti long ago with a battery not producing the proper voltage. It caused the transmission to stay in 1st gear. Will keep the post updated.
The ECM's ability to do its job...which is based upon sensor resistance...from MAF to injectors to temp sensors, crank position sensor...all engine management...is based upon a strong battery and proper alternator charging and solid grounds. Without, no chance for smooth running. That is your starting point.

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Old 08-25-2016, 04:21 PM   #10
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When was the last time you changed the transmission fluid?

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Old 08-29-2016, 02:47 PM   #11
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Looks like the problem was the TCM. There were codes and it was causing the torque converter to lock up. That was not cheap. It's been running nice smooth now - no more lunging forward.

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Old 08-30-2016, 08:54 AM   #12
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Good call on my part that it was the torque convertor, surge was a dead give away. Glad you did not start throwing a bunch of unneeded parts at it, would have been a waste of money

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Old 04-10-2018, 07:23 PM   #13
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Great info I'll keep that in mind1

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Old 04-17-2018, 05:29 PM   #14
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scottiedoggy, About how much should I expect to pay to replace the TCM? I'm thinking if repairing mine since I'm having similar issues.

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It would be greatly appreciated that instead of just making a statement telling us that "it wasn't cheap" if people would actually state who did the repair and how much it cost.

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It would be greatly appreciated that instead of just making a statement telling us that "it wasn't cheap" if people would actually state who did the repair and how much it cost.

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Sorry, you are expecting too much.
Next in line please. Nothing to see here...lol.

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Old 06-08-2018, 05:42 PM   #17
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While not the same issue, but for the sake of comparison, my local GM dealer quoted me 4500 to replace the 6T70 in my 08 Vue, 4900 to rebuild. That was last July. We ended up trading the car as GM wouldn't even work with us on replacement. 4 days outside the 10 year special warranty based on paperwork, 6 days inside the period based on when the vehicle was ready for delivery (with complete documentation).

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