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Old 01-13-2020, 12:42 PM   #1
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Default New Fuel Pump for a 97

I want to finally replace the fuel pump in my 97. Are the any brands I should stay away from? Spectra Premium seems to be the most bought in RockAuto, but it has bad reviews on amazon. Is Carter still a good brand? Ive seen that mentioned here before.

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Old 01-13-2020, 10:07 PM   #2
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Q: Does your 97 suffer from the bad starting up issue like mine is? after sitting a few minutes from turning off - it hesitates and takes a few tries with the turn of the key to get fuel flowing properly? (some sort of valve defect in the 97 fuel pumps ??)

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Old 01-13-2020, 11:54 PM   #3
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Q: Does your 97 suffer from the bad starting up issue like mine is? after sitting a few minutes from turning off - it hesitates and takes a few tries with the turn of the key to get fuel flowing properly? (some sort of valve defect in the 97 fuel pumps ??)
It does, and I do wait for the fuel pump to prime before starting. My remote starter doesn't wait long enough though so it will sometimes struggle to start.

I had a feeling I would have this problem after getting the remote starter. I've wanted to replace it for a while now for convenience sake anyway.

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Old 01-14-2020, 12:01 AM   #4
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Default Re: New Fuel Pump for a 97

I was also looking at this thread on how to replace the pump. The pics no longer work unfortunately...Is there a Richpin video on this, lol

http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=142900

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Old 01-14-2020, 10:15 AM   #5
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Default Re: New Fuel Pump for a 97

ShawnV took out more than I needed to on both a '93 SL2 and '96 SC2, but it reads as if he managed to get the tank out with the back end just lifted on standard height ramps (I had to jack both to the sky with the front bumper on the ground).

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This job is the only reason I can think of to run the gas tank dry. Run it as empty as you can, fill-up a 5gal can to put gas in when your done if you get worried about making the station afterward...the less gas in the tank when you start & the better off you'll be.
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Old 01-14-2020, 02:22 PM   #6
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I want to finally replace the fuel pump in my 97. Are the any brands I should stay away from? Spectra Premium seems to be the most bought in RockAuto, but it has bad reviews on amazon. Is Carter still a good brand? Ive seen that mentioned here before.

Thanks for the help
I had to replace mine recently. Brought the DELPHI FG0412 from Rockauto. Works fine for me. I had to replace mine because the hoses to the pump was leaking gas. Killed two birds with one stone. Hope you find what your looking for! Aloha!

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Old 01-14-2020, 05:08 PM   #7
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Default Re: New Fuel Pump for a 97

Too bad there wasn't a recall for this issue with our 97's

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Old 01-14-2020, 10:31 PM   #8
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I took the easy way out. I wired a momentary push switch across the fuel pump relay. Get in car push switch for 7 seconds then normal turn key to start. Works every time

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Old 01-14-2020, 10:36 PM   #9
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Default Re: New Fuel Pump for a 97

There was a factory service bulletin on the 97 pumps. Im pretty sure it only extended the warranty on the fuel pumps though, which are now long expired anyway.


Does anyone know if there is a sock/filter for the pump and the housing? I cant tell from the FSM if there is one for both of not.

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Old 01-15-2020, 12:58 AM   #10
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Default Re: New Fuel Pump for a 97

There is an in-tank filter, not sure what you'd call it. It snaps onto the intake port on the fuel pump. The new pump should come with one.

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Old 01-22-2020, 01:48 PM   #11
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Default Re: New Fuel Pump for a 97

I probably wont be doing the pump until it gets warmer out, but I did get this in the mail last night. Should hopefully make getting the old pump out easy.

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I probably wont be doing the pump until it gets warmer out, but I did get this in the mail last night. Should hopefully make getting the old pump out easy.

My 9 yr old took my ring off with a screw driver wrapped around a rag and a hammer.

Among other Saturn fun my fuel pump took a crap Christmas Day.

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Old 01-31-2020, 03:43 PM   #13
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I think I discovered something new about my current fuel pump. Not only does it loose pressure quicker with a warmed up engine, it struggles to regain pressure when parked up hill. Even after cycling the key twice to prime the pump, it almost stalled starting. Ill have to try priming it more next time and see it that helps.

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Re '97 fuel system:
1.) I never had the issue ... Madpogue, a onetime Sat Tech, suggests/
just turn SW to Ig ON, then leisurely fasten seatbelt, then turn to 'Start'.
{assumes manual ops}.

2.) If you are still using the original Fuel Pressure Regulator, it might help to install a new regulator.

I measured the pressure on mine, and observed varied output press with varied vacuum, all within spec. But I renewed the part based on gut disgust ... and the engine performance improved much.

3.) OldNuc suggested to use the Carter pump (only); Delphi/Delco prolly OK.

4.) You may want to lubricate the fastenings securing the Straps which support the tank a few days before the planned Swap ops; maybe loosen the
fasteners.... check for security. Maybe procure some replacement tank straps beforehand. Hopefully the attachments are OK.

5.) Nice OTC special tool.
You may want to procure a new tank seal/attachment ring/oring.

The flattish steel ring is rotated beneath a mating/matching ring on the tank, whilst compressing slightly the elastic oring into a mating groove between the tank-ring(s). The steel may be rusted stationary, with accumulated sand and corrosion products. A dull screwdriver (or flat-tipped punch) may be more suitable to loosen/disjar the steel sealing ring from its rusted intimacy with the adjacent similar part on the tank. That is, the torque required to turn the OTC wrench when the thing is rusted in place may be excessive. Also, these rings
-- similar design on '73 & '95 Chevy pickups -- have provision for some lateral 'play', so they sometimes need 'centering' to align cutouts, etc, etc.

The wrench may be ideal After the seal ring has been tapped loose & jiggled about a bit; it will probably be nice for the installation aspect too.

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