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Old 02-03-2014, 10:58 PM   #1
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So, as you can probably tell from my profile pic, my 93 Sc1 could use some new paint. Looking for a decent $0-$500 job.
Anything goes. Ive heard things about Maaco, and that it depends on which one you go to. I wouldn't trust the maaco near me with my spit.

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Old 02-03-2014, 11:20 PM   #2
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If you're trying to get a decent paint job on a budget, you might want to check with the smaller shops. Depending on workload you might be able to find one that will allow you to do the prep work, and/or wetsanding and polishing after the paint. Otherwise I really wouldn't expect much at all for $500.

There are places that do really good work for reasonable rates, but really $500 to paint a car properly is a budget job.

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Old 02-04-2014, 12:28 AM   #3
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So, as you can probably tell from my profile pic, my 93 Sc1 could use some new paint. Looking for a decent $0-$500 job.
Anything goes. Ive heard things about Maaco, and that it depends on which one you go to. I wouldn't trust the maaco near me with my spit.
You can use Rust-Oleum spray paint with proper prep and get a real nice looking paint job if you want to put the time into it.

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Old 02-04-2014, 01:21 PM   #4
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I have collected several books over the years concerning doing your own paint and body work. A few of the better ones tend to devote whole chapters to the idea that it may not be worth messing with it. Most times they talk about looking at the value of the car and making a determination based on its value. I think a SC1 probably falls into the area where you should do that. It will cost you money and time that is probably best spent elsewhere. I feel you on wanting to spruce it up, but I'd point you towards moving out of it and into something nicer. In the long run you'll be happier.

If you had a bunch invested in this car, perhaps their is a valid reasoning. But if you counted what the stuff costs and what your time is worth painting it yourself isn't a great bargain. Neither is paying someone for a crappy $500 job; And $500 paint jobs are crappy.

But in the end I'd quote Easy-E and say, "I Looked At Ma Car And I Said "Oh Brother, I'll Throw It In The Gutter And Go Buy Another". For the value of your car and the price to get it painted (or paint it yourself) you can upgrade. I say if you want a nicer car save some money sell out of the 20+ year old SC1 and buy something better with nice paint.

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Old 02-04-2014, 01:42 PM   #5
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That would be the "green eyeshade" approach. Good automotive paint is unbelievable expensive and the equipment to apply it is likewise.

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Old 02-04-2014, 08:22 PM   #6
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Just getting the right primer, paint, clear and the other materials like tape, paper and sanding blocks would eat a huge chunk of that $500 let alone the right equipment to spray.
I shoot the front facia of my Chrysler every few years to freshen it up from rock chip damage. I have all of the equipment and paint already and even then the time it takes to prep is one full day with the clip removed from the car. When I paint Chrysler and Dodge front clips for friends with the same color as mine, I charge $250 which is a bargain for at least 2.5 days of work. Sanding and prepping, three coats of color and three of clear with wet sanding between clear coats takes time and patience.

Remember, I'm talking about a front clip and not the whole car.

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Old 02-04-2014, 09:47 PM   #7
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how much is a good paint job? 500 is crappy, what is the price point for a good paint job?

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Old 02-04-2014, 11:09 PM   #8
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Old 02-05-2014, 12:26 PM   #9
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How long is a piece of string?

$3000. (http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=109547)
$2000. (http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=177153)
$8000. (full parts off respray with high end paint and body work made perfect)


How bad is the body? Will you do all of the prep work? etc.

Nice job of a home paint job: http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=154427

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Old 02-05-2014, 12:44 PM   #10
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It is not 'worth' it. The thing I hate most about buying a new car is waiting for that first scratch or dent. The thing I love most about driving my old Saturn is that I don't worry about where I park it (or drive it). And more and more these days, the 'disadvantaged' out there only become hateful of your pretty toy.

I would do it if I won the lottery and had a bundle to 'throw away'. I would go even further and have the entire car restored, but only if I had at least a couple of million in the bank (at least). Then the project becomes 'peanut' money.

Ask any expert on car restoration and they will all tell you it is a labor love and not much anything else.

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I bet that was taken in California. The expensive car drivers tend to use 2 parking spots so the don't get a dent.

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Old 02-05-2014, 03:32 PM   #13
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I bet that was taken in California. The expensive car drivers tend to use 2 parking spots so the don't get a dent.
Plenty of *#&$*# that do that here in Texas.

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depends on who you know at maaco. sometimes their work is ok and sometimes they could have done better. it is a labor of love. i remember a long while back i painted my cheapie cheapie car either in krylon or rusteoleum and it came out real decent.

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$5,000 for a job that you'll be happy with and without overspary and orange peel anywhere. A white car is the easiest to paint because it hides flaws the best. Obviously, black with metal flake is the worst.

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That is about right and just about every automotive paint in existence has some type/color of metal flake in it which makes application a 1st class PITA.

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I found out the hard way that you can't sand metal flake between coats because you "smear' the flakes which looks like crap. You have to put down 3 good clean even coats of base color in order for the clear to really pull the color out and make it look like it's a foot deep.

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i know the 97 sc2 in black has gold in the paint. i only need to do the front bumper when we have some nice weather, and it shouldnt be hard to paint.

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I have a CJ-7 with that brown with gold flake paint and it is blindingly expensive, might as well be real gold.

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I bet that was taken in California. The expensive car drivers tend to use 2 parking spots so the don't get a dent.
Anyone willing to pay double for whatever business they're doing where they park is welcome to take two spots. I know in a lot of big-city parking ramps, an attendant cruises around and checks for this, and when the dude is on his way out, they charge him for two spots.

(I would've been tempted to park a LOT closer to that Jerkcedes if I were driving that Chevy; woulda been fun to scout down a Smart driver to park on the other side....)

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