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Old 01-22-2014, 02:57 PM   #1
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Before I buy an SC2 and start modding, what type of racing are Saturns good in? Rallycross? 1/4 Mile? Cone slalom? I know that these cars have weak engines, especially in the SOHC's (and by weak I mean slow).

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Old 01-22-2014, 03:39 PM   #2
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Everyone I've seen on here seems to be doing autocross. Course, there are one or two drag racing teams, but their cars are heavily modified.

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Old 01-22-2014, 03:50 PM   #3
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Autocross is popular. I run 3/8 oval ashphalt, other's I've seen on 3/8 oval dirt. There's a couple of near stock dragsters as well as heavily modified.

SC2 is the most popular I've seen because it's a DOHC and a stiffer suspension for cornering.

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Old 01-22-2014, 03:52 PM   #4
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Old 01-23-2014, 10:13 AM   #5
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Back when I was stationed at Ft. Campbell, there was a guy who ran a first gen SL on the local dirt track, but it often finished last, several laps down, but he gave it his all every weekend.

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Old 01-23-2014, 10:24 AM   #6
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My first season in 98 SC2 Automatic I won a heat race and a feature race, finished the season in third and won rookie of the year.

In every race I was in with the leaders even though I was running 300lbs heavier than the rest.

I missed one meet because the belt tensioner failed. Crashed out on the last feature of the year because the axle snapped.

Very realiable and forgiving for a novice racer.

My only complaint is the plastic panels. They break very easily where metal would crumple and stay attached.

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Old 01-24-2014, 09:16 PM   #7
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So, is it worth tuning Saturns for autocross?

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Old 01-24-2014, 10:39 PM   #8
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So, is it worth tuning Saturns for autocross?
I'm going to play with the question if you don't mind.

Is it worth autocrossing a Saturn?

Yes, they are sporty handling little cars. And even autocrossing a Crown Vic is a fun experience if you are only concerned about having fun and improving your skills. Throwing a few things (Tires) at the car to make it better at the sport may help your enjoyment of the car, but I'd keep it under control.

Is it worth modding for autocross?

Depends on what your goals are. The curtain is closing on a Saturn being even a reasonable car for modded classes. The years of any off the shelf high-end parts are over and the cars have largely been placed in a category that makes even the best choice of Saturn with the best parts a 3rd or 4th string car. So if you want to really compete in a modded Saturn have a big checkbook to have one-off parts fabbed and enjoy not winning in anything but smallish local events.

I'd advise against modding for Autocross. If you have to mod for your enjoyment fine, but keep those mods pretty light.

If you are really wanting to compete in Autocross don't mod at all, the Saturn sits in it's most competitive class as a stock car. Really leaving the car alone and just driving it will make you a better driver and prepare you for a more capable car in the future.

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Old 01-24-2014, 11:30 PM   #9
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You pretty much nailed it cloud819.

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Old 01-27-2014, 05:27 AM   #10
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Old 01-28-2014, 09:05 PM   #11
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I'd agree that the most competitive situation will likely be in the stock autocross class. It's a pretty light car stock and the SC2 5 speed has a decent powerband for autocross that is set up with lots of turns and relatively short straights. You can likely embarrass some pretty expensive newer cars. It would be a good car to learn in, lots of spare parts in the junk yards still, if you break something.

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Old 01-28-2014, 09:17 PM   #12
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I Googled it out of boredom once and even found several rally cars that were Saturn. One was an SL2, even.

Mine will probably be the first wagon, though.

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Old 01-29-2014, 01:20 AM   #13
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Just curious, how much more does the SW weigh than the SL or SC?
Are they cheaper? Cause' I like the looks of those SW's a lot...

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Just curious, how much more does the SW weigh than the SL or SC?
Are they cheaper? Cause' I like the looks of those SW's a lot...
The nearly completely correct list of S-series curb weights. If you have or do not have some options this will vary slightly.

http://www.differentracing.com/tech_...urbweight.html

If you want to know some fun stuff about weight reduction for racing then check this out:
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Before I buy an SC2 and start modding, what type of racing are Saturns good in? Rallycross? 1/4 Mile? Cone slalom? I know that these cars have weak engines, especially in the SOHC's (and by weak I mean slow).
Been drag racing one of those "slow" single cam SC1s for a couple of years picking up trophys, making $$ and having a blast doing it. For the whole story click the link below:
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Just curious, how much more does the SW weigh than the SL or SC?
Are they cheaper? Cause' I like the looks of those SW's a lot...
Oddly enough, the coupe is the heaviest, on average. I picked the wagon because...well...it was only $300 and I've always wanted a wagon.

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Been drag racing one of those "slow" single cam SC1s for a couple of years picking up trophys, making $$ and having a blast doing it.
You're running 18s. "Slow" = slow.

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Slow yes - but watching a 7 second dragster coming at you in the mirror and getting to the finish line before him is more fun than you can imagine(especially if you get a lot of $$ for doing it)

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Not my idea of fun, but to each his own.

Throw a turbo on it.

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The "slow" sc1's are still a blast to throw around turns.
Near my place there is an almost rally-like road, with tons of great turns, slopes, scenery, and slaloms. Woo Hoo on my way home from work.

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