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Old 12-01-2012, 12:23 AM   #1
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my wife is having our second child in May we have my 98 sl2 with 210,000 miles and hers. her saturn needs some work and uses tons of oil so we decided to sell it and buy a newer car. we are going to be spending about 3500 bucks. she will get my car since she doesnt drive near as much as me. things i like about my saturn pretty simple to fix, drives good and is reasonably comfortable. also has been a good car its needed things but nothing that is not normal with the miles and and age. it also gets good fuel economy. things i do not like. the interior. i hate the after though of the stereo and hvac location that whole center piece is dumb. i also hate how most of them burn oil. and i do wish is rode a little softer over big bumps but that is minor. so my question is for having two kids should i buy another one maybe a newer version? or should i move on to other brands. what do you guys think?

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Old 12-01-2012, 01:11 AM   #2
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Softer over bumps? If the floaty POS gets any softer it'll make marshmellows feel stiff.

For $3500 I'd take a 5spd Outback Wagon and the 5-10mpg hit long before I got another S-Series for that price. I'd probably even take an automatic Outback, but I'd rather have full time AWD then the part time the automatic's have.

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Old 12-01-2012, 07:11 AM   #3
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I own two Saturn's neither are very plushy over big bumps. My moms focus make it kook like a log wagon . I want something easy and not a wallet killer to work on

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Old 12-01-2012, 10:14 AM   #4
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Take that $3500 and invest it in a Chrysler mini van. Make sure you look at only 2 engines (3.3 or 3.8) Don't even think about the 4 or the Mitsu****ti 3.0. The 4 is a dog and the Mits drops valves, leaks oil and smokes better than any Saturn. Really $3500 should buy a decent one. Trust me with a kid you'll NEED it. Or get a full size like any GM with the corporate 3.8. Buick LeSabre, Olds 88/98, or Pontiac GranPrix/Bonneville.
If you decide to go toward the mini van PM me and I can give you LOTS of info as they were what our shop specialized in.

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Old 12-01-2012, 02:29 PM   #5
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Toyota Previa would be a better minivan. If you can find a low mileage one. Harder to work on but need WAY less work and last a long time.

If i was spending that much i'd probably buy a newer camry or accord. Or even a 6cyl vue.

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Old 12-01-2012, 10:26 PM   #6
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well the previa has awful safety ratings. i really dont want a mini van. i would rather have a sedan or wagon.

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Old 12-01-2012, 10:53 PM   #7
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VUE
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The vue is a great car/SUV it will give you more room than a S-Series and IMO a great overall car

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Old 12-02-2012, 12:38 AM   #8
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For $3500 you can find a ton of cars in that range.

You can pick up a nice Benz, Audi or Volvo at that price.

Pontiac Grand Prix for good as well. I have one. the 3.8L been around for ever. Solid engine & easy to work on.

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Old 12-02-2012, 10:32 PM   #9
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If you have the luxury of time to search Craigs List for a low mileage S-series from a little old lady who drove it to church every Sunday it may be better to go with the devil you know. An SW might be big enough. .... but if not the right VUE as described above sounds good and I can tell you from a similar situation that a Mopar minivan (shorty [ non 'grand']) feels like a banquet room when moving to it from an S-car. I had to drag my wife kicking and screaming into a 1996 Plymouth Voyager from our 94 SL1 ... until she actually sat in it and then I couldn't get her to come out.

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Old 12-03-2012, 10:23 AM   #10
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Volvo V70 or 850 wagon.
Rock solid reliable, rock solid safety, poor resale value (good for you)

They are great cars.

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Old 12-03-2012, 10:38 AM   #11
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Take that $3500 and invest it in a Chrysler mini van. Make sure you look at only 2 engines (3.3 or 3.8)
I know you don't want a minivan, but ^ ^ ^ this.

My '99 has over 200k miles, my '02 has a little over 180k. Both trouble-free, stuff that needed replacement is all normal wear/maintenance stuff. Only exception is the AC evaporator on both went out at around 170k.

It's seriously awesome that when it was windy and raining or snowiing, I could get inside the car, close the door, and buckle the kid into the safety seat without us both getting soaked. Another plus on long trips, take out the 3rd seat and you have a crapload of space behind the second row of seats. You can get the kid out, put a blanket in the space, change the diaper and put the kid back into the seat without ever getting out of the car.

And, you'll be able to drive your kids and their friends somewhere without coordinating with the other kids parents as a second driver. You do take a hit on the mpg, though.

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Old 12-03-2012, 12:21 PM   #12
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For $3500 you can find a ton of cars in that range.

You can pick up a nice Benz, Audi or Volvo at that price.

Pontiac Grand Prix for good as well. I have one. the 3.8L been around for ever. Solid engine & easy to work on.

Skip the Benz, audi, or volvo. Replacement parts are $$$

The GM 3.8 is a reliable engine, and should easily reach 250,000+ without any problems if well maintained. If you decide to get another saturn, realize $3500 is the price of a well-maintened, very low mileage saturn (40,000 miles or under) Most s-series rank under $3,000 (unless of course you don't shop around and just buy the first one you see at a dealership )

Dealerships are also a place I would stay far away from. Hardly any offer a warranty in that price range, and they price their cars about 25% over what the car is even worth. And for those that feel safer buying a used car at a dealership, realize you are getting the same cars you see on craigslist, they just clean it up and give you a nice, high price tag

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And as far as chrysler mini vans, watch what year you get. Some of the auto trannys are grenades waiting to go.

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The GM 3.8 is a reliable engine,
One of the very few times I have been impressed by a GM car... rented a Buick with the 3.8, drove from Pittsburgh, PA to Kalamazoo, MI at 75~80 miles an hour, AC on the entire time (it was 90+ outside, and humid). Filled up the tank before dropping the rental off, mental calculation showed 30+ mpg. Impressive for a plush riding automatic trans car.

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One of the very few times I have been impressed by a GM car... rented a Buick with the 3.8, drove from Pittsburgh, PA to Kalamazoo, MI at 75~80 miles an hour, AC on the entire time (it was 90+ outside, and humid). Filled up the tank before dropping the rental off, mental calculation showed 30+ mpg. Impressive for a plush riding automatic trans car.
This is the reason my wife has a lesabre, huge car and good gas mileage with all the bells and whistles

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Didn't the Impala also come with a 3.8L as well?

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I'll throw in another vote for the Buick LeSabre. My wife drives a 97 that we bought in 2005 for $3200 with 25k miles and have been driving the whizz out of ever since. Super reliable, great gas mileage (upper 20s mixed and low 30s on trips). When we first got it, I kept blowing by freeway exits because the car is so comfortable I lost track of the miles; we dubbed it the Magic Carpet. Handles nicely, too, for a big car. Great air and stereo.

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Ditto on the Buick or Olds 3.8. My buddy bought a 98 Olds 88 with 60k on it for $ 3500 and it was still going strong at 170k when he sold it. Only normal maintainence. Got 32 on the highway @ 70 -80 mph. He called it the "Living Room".

I have been thinking about getting one for the wife if the right one comes along.

Not sure if the Chevys and Pontiacs are quite as good.

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How BIG is that baby going to be??? Maybe get a all-electric car with plastic body panels ...like a Power Wheel.



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I have an unusual perspective on the 3.8 L powered GM cars (Lesaber, Grand Prix, bonneville). I have used a bonneville and a Lesaber in off road Derbys. They can take a serious beating without breaking and they have more power than most cars in there class. They can often get a lot of miles on them without too much trouble, other than the intake manifold.

I also used to have a 3.3L dodge caravan and I was really impressed with it. Low maintenance, had 175k miles on it and it still ran flawless, low cost spare parts but poor gas mileage. I got up to 24 mpg on a good deal (hwy) but usually less. I went with a Subaru forester when I replaced it. I wanted better gas mileage. I do get better gas mileage but it is very cramped on long trips with 2 kids. Plus the seats are very uncomfortable.

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