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Old 03-17-2005, 01:12 PM   #1
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Default whats a good NON-SYNTHETIC oil?

well, i have been using regular old mobil 10w30 in all my vehicles for quite some time, but its getting so hard to find that im going to switch, autozone even quit selling it now and replaced it with some new 2.50 per quart mobil, so im looking for another good non-synthetic oil to use in all my vehicles that i can actually find..lol..i used to use castrol and havoline and both seemed to tar and sludge up quickly, ive also used exxon superflo and penzoil and liked them both but i read somewhere about the teflon in the penzoil gumming up or something or other, is this true because i would like to either go back to pennzoil or the psuperflo, bottom line is i need an oil that will do its job but NOT sludge up.. your thoughts

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Old 03-17-2005, 01:16 PM   #2
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i use quaker state 5w30 high mileage.

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Old 03-17-2005, 01:18 PM   #3
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I use Mobil Drive Clean 5w30. Costco sells it for $11.97/case

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Old 03-17-2005, 01:28 PM   #4
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Cheveron 5w30 seems to be good for me. I get it for $1.09 a quart at Costco. Recently I got 2 case of it at Schucks for $.59 per quart, after the mail in rebate.

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Old 03-17-2005, 02:21 PM   #5
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Default Re: whats a good NON-SYNTHETIC oil?

I second the Quaker State comment, that's what I use. I've heard Penzoil is the same thing.

I read somewhere that Wal-Mart brand Supertech oil is supposed to be pretty good. I know their filters are good, so I've been considering switching to their oil too. At (damn!) $0.88 a quart that's hard to beat!

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Old 03-17-2005, 02:41 PM   #6
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why get synthetic when you can get 10w-20w-50 dino?

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Old 03-17-2005, 05:53 PM   #7
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I second the Quaker State comment, that's what I use. I've heard Penzoil is the same thing.

I read somewhere that Wal-Mart brand Supertech oil is supposed to be pretty good. I know their filters are good, so I've been considering switching to their oil too. At (damn!) $0.88 a quart that's hard to beat!
I buy the Mobil 1 by the 5 quart jug and a supertech filter all the time at Wal-Mart (the only thing I buy from there), the supertech beats even the Fram Xguard or whatever thier best filter is....

why not go synthetic?

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Old 03-17-2005, 06:52 PM   #8
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why not go synthetic?

Synthetic cleans all the crap out of the seals/rings etc., and can sometimes cause an older, higher milage engine, that has a bunch of crap in it, to burn oil. It loosens everything, and then all of the sudden, the oil runs through the car faster then gas....

Maybe not that bad... but.... That's what the original poster is looking for.

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Old 03-17-2005, 08:16 PM   #9
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Default Re: whats a good NON-SYNTHETIC oil?

I was going to say Havoline, but you do not like that one. Regarding Penzoil, I have never heard anything about it having Teflon. It seems highly regarded at BITOG. There is some great info on oil there. If the oil is sludging, it may that it is cleaning things. I used Castrol 10w-30 on a 93 Sentra for 80,000 miles. Never sludged up. Dropped the pan it was suprisingly clean. My recommendation is to go to the place where people are fanatics about oil (BITOG). You can find more than you ever want to know about oil in no time. My Sam's has Penzoil around in the $14 range. Good luck!

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Old 03-17-2005, 08:19 PM   #10
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Synthetic cleans all the crap out of the seals/rings etc., and can sometimes cause an older, higher milage engine, that has a bunch of crap in it, to burn oil. It loosens everything, and then all of the sudden, the oil runs through the car faster then gas....

Maybe not that bad... but.... That's what the original poster is looking for.
I've had exactly the opposite situation.
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using approx 1qt/1000 mi
switched to Mobil 1 0W40
1pint/3000 miles

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Old 03-17-2005, 08:47 PM   #11
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I've had exactly the opposite situation.
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using approx 1qt/1000 mi
switched to Mobil 1 0W40
1pint/3000 miles
Alright. Enough of this! Time for the boys at Myth Busters to tackle this synthetic-oil-will-cause-leaks urban legend.

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Old 03-17-2005, 09:14 PM   #12
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Alright. Enough of this! Time for the boys at Myth Busters to tackle this synthetic-oil-will-cause-leaks urban legend.
AMEN to that!

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Old 03-17-2005, 09:19 PM   #13
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I used about 1/4 quart more switching to Mobil 1 5w-30 from Castrol, but it seems to be a thin oil. Gave better gas mileage. But, I stocked up on Mobil 1 0w-40 Euro Formula at $2.00 at Auto Zone on closeout, in hopes of reducing comsuption.

Myth busters is a good idea! I only watched one episode. They totally blew up a concrete mixer to see if explosives would remove concrete from the inside of the mixer.

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Old 03-17-2005, 09:21 PM   #14
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Default Re: whats a good NON-SYNTHETIC oil?

synthetic oil causes leaks in high mileage engines that have some gunk plugging up a leak. as long as you were running dino oil, it was fine. but when you start using synthetic, it starts to clean out all your engine's insides,including your "false seal" and thus the oil leak.

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Old 03-17-2005, 09:30 PM   #15
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synthetic oil causes leaks in high mileage engines that have some gunk plugging up a leak. as long as you were running dino oil, it was fine. but when you start using synthetic, it starts to clean out all your engine's insides,including your "false seal" and thus the oil leak.
Which beggs the following question: At what mileage does an engine quailify as a high mileage engine?

I only ask because we purchased pre-paid maintenence with our '02 SC2 and won't be able to switch over to synthetic oil until that runs out in two more years. Actually, having pre-paid maintence was a good thing since shortly after purchasing this vehicle, I lost my job and am still looking for my next job. Without the pre-paid maintenence, we couldn't afford to change the oil every 3,000 miles!

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My 2 cent.
Any good detergent oil will should hold dirt/sludge in suspension so that it drains out with the oil and prevents sludge buildup. The frequency and regularity is what really matters. I am also of the belief that you should stick with one brand. Another urban legend?

My brother in law worked for Exxon at the grease plant in town. Exxon made oil and grease not only under their brand but also for dozens of other labels. The formulation was made to different specs for each brand but was very similiar in order to be certified (the bottle cap stamp).They are out of the grease business at least in Pa. and rich is in another line of work now. I miss getting my oil for 20 cent a quart. But at least I can find it almost anywhere.

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Personally I'd be willing to bet that more leaks are started from inadvertent overfilling than any synth problem.

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Old 03-17-2005, 10:09 PM   #18
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Personally I'd be willing to bet that more leaks are started from inadvertent overfilling than any synth problem.
NO NO NO the syntec oil is totally different ,it will
like antifreeze get out anywhere it possibly can !
It is my understanding if you put it in A brand new car it will
stay in and do A teriffic job,however in an older engine the seals have become accustomed to the oil that you use,and can't
adapt to the new properties.
had the same problem with cars of the 50s,when changing to multigrade detergent oil around1975 boy did that oil run out
at every seal and gasket.
there are many good detergent oils everywhere ,pick out one that fits your price range and is redily available in your area

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Going on my own experience, I have a 98 F150 that I bought new. I used motorcraft conventional oil from day 1 except for times when I would haul the travel trailer. I then used motorcraft synthetic, mainly for it's superior heat resistance. Iv'e done that every summer since I purchased the truck and have never had a leak. The truck has over 100,000 miles of me going back and forth between synth and petro.
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It is my understanding if you put it in A brand new car it will
stay in and do A teriffic job,however in an older engine the seals have become accustomed to the oil that you use,and can't
adapt to the new properties.

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