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Old 12-19-2004, 10:55 PM   #1
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Default IIHS offset frontal crash test result for ION

Not terrible, but certainly not best in class either...

http://www.iihs.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/0419.htm

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Old 12-20-2004, 12:23 AM   #2
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i'm a little concerned about the steering wheel breaking off...

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Old 12-20-2004, 11:27 AM   #3
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Default Re: IIHS offset frontal crash test result for ION

I'm kind of disappointed to see such a new GM model not earn the "Good" designation. You have to wonder if the steering wheel breaking off is an isolated incident or if Saturn needs to revisit some of its engineering.

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Old 12-20-2004, 12:19 PM   #4
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Default Re: IIHS offset frontal crash test result for ION

saturns since the beginning have done well, i was certainly suprised at the second lowest rating that it received

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Old 12-20-2004, 12:47 PM   #5
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Default Re: IIHS offset frontal crash test result for ION

I think Saturn is resting on its laurels when it comes to safety. The S Series was one of the most crashworthy small cars in the early 90's, but cars overall have progressed in terms of safety since then, and Saturn hasn't exactly been leading the pack. Couple that with the fact that GM has forced Saturn to develop new products as cheaply as possible over the last few years, and mediocre results are not surprising.

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Old 12-20-2004, 02:33 PM   #6
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That's unfortunate. I guess we won't see those ads about how safe these cars are. Remember the print ads for the S series of people who walked away from terrible crashes? I wonder if it applies to the platform in general or just the Ion. Perhaps this is a consequence of the GM-ization of Saturn.
That picture with the broken steering wheel looks just sad!

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Old 12-20-2004, 03:06 PM   #7
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saturns since the beginning have done well, i was certainly suprised at the second lowest rating that it received
Actually, Acceptable on the front impact tests is the second highest rating. Here is the scale used:

Good
Acceptable
Marginal
Poor

The Dodge Neon got a 'Marginal' rating, while the Kia Spectra and the Chevy Cavalier got 'Poor' Ratings. Interesting to see that the 2000 Neon that was tested also had a steering wheel break off.

Though I am surprised that the ION got several poor ratings in the rear impact test. The only 'Good' rating it got was for 03-04 IONs with cloth seats in the "Seat/Head Restraint Geometry" category. The ones with leather seats got 'Acceptable'.

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Old 12-20-2004, 04:06 PM   #8
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The S Series was one of the most crashworthy small cars in the early 90's, but cars overall have progressed in terms of safety since then, and Saturn hasn't exactly been leading the pack. Couple that with the fact that GM has forced Saturn to develop new products as cheaply as possible over the last few years, and mediocre results are not surprising.
It's worth noting that in IIHS Offset Frontal Impact testing ALL Saturns tested since 1995 have received an "Acceptable" rating with the exception of the VUE (Good). The S also received a "Marginal" raiting for its restraints where the lowest rating in any category for the Ion was Acceptable..

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Old 12-20-2004, 04:50 PM   #9
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Actually, Acceptable on the front impact tests is the second highest rating. Here is the scale used:

Good
Acceptable
Marginal
Poor
actually, if you want to get REAL nit-picky, it's the THIRD highest.
BEST PICK, then good, acceptable, marginal, poor. i had to.

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Though I am surprised that the ION got several poor ratings in the rear impact test. The only 'Good' rating it got was for 03-04 IONs with cloth seats in the "Seat/Head Restraint Geometry" category. The ones with leather seats got 'Acceptable'.
i have found when in my grandma's 2003 ION that the headrests do NOT come up high enough. the top part comes up to the middle of my head, and i'm 5' 8"-ish.

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Old 12-20-2004, 06:26 PM   #10
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It's worth noting that in IIHS Offset Frontal Impact testing ALL Saturns tested since 1995 have received an "Acceptable" rating with the exception of the VUE (Good). The S also received a "Marginal" raiting for its restraints where the lowest rating in any category for the Ion was Acceptable..
True, but it's not too good that today's Saturns are getting the same rating as the Saturns of nearly a decade ago, especially since the industry average has certainly improved.

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Old 12-20-2004, 06:36 PM   #11
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True, but it's not too good that today's Saturns are getting the same rating as the Saturns of nearly a decade ago, especially since the industry average has certainly improved.
Very much agreed. Lack of innovation is frightning, especially when the other cars I have to worry about on the road are geting larger and larger.

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Old 12-20-2004, 06:45 PM   #12
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Default Re: IIHS offset frontal crash test result for ION

This comparison certainly shows Saturn lagging the better competition:

http://www.iihs.org/vehicle_ratings/...ll_front_c.htm

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Old 12-21-2004, 01:17 AM   #13
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These tests are based on ONE variable ("crashworthiness of the ION in a 40 mph frontal offset crash test into a deformable barrier"). But according to "INJURY, COLLISION & THEFT LOSSES by make and model, 2001-2003 models"...see here;http://www.iihs.org/vehicle_ratings/ictl/ictl_4dr.htm, none of the cars in the ION's class that were tested to be better had lower injury claims than the ION.

NOTE: "All losses are stated in relative terms, with 100 representing the average injury, collision, or theft loss for all cars"

Here is an interesting observation ( compare the Toyota Matrix to the Pontiac Vibe); http://www.iihs.org/vehicle_ratings/ictl/ictl_wagon.htm

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