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Old 05-15-2014, 02:39 PM   #1
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Default P0833 Which sensor do I possibly replace?

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I have the check engine light on and the code is P0833 Clutch Pedal Switch B Circuit. But the clutch has two different sensors I can replace, could anyone help me out in deciding which sensor possibly needs replacement? Thanks in advance.
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the only sensor I know of on the clutch pedal is the one all the way in the back that needs to be pressed to start the car. its also used to disengage the cruise also once its pressed all the way.

Are you able to start your car with it pressed?
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In 2007, the whole car was changed again, beyond what was changed in 2005. One of the things they changed was the fact that that there are now 2 clutch switches. This allows no lift shift and launch control on the later cobalt ss tc.
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The part you may need is the clutch pedal position switch. This is mounted at the very top of the clutch pedal assembly (see picture below). and was only installed on 2005-2007 Ions with manual transmission (and cruise control). The clutch pedal assembly must be removed to replace this switch because it is nearly impossible to access this switch without doing so. This part is GM p/n 22734989 or AC Delco p/n D2270C. Both clutch switches have adjustable positions to ensure they function properly so I'd check this before replacing any parts.

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The primary function of the clutch pedal position switch is to immediately alert the ECM when the clutch pedal is pressed. This switch is mounted to the fixed metal part of the clutch pedal assembly. It has a button on it that is pressed in by an extension of the clutch pedal whenever the pedal is fully released. When the clutch pedal is pressed, this button is released which opens the circuit and tells the ECM to release the cruise control. If you "ride the clutch" (read: rest your foot on the clutch pedal - which one should never do) this can cause the circuit in this switch to open & close intermittently since the circuit opens near the start of the clutch pedal motion. The ECM may interpret this behavior as a faulty switch and trigger the P0833 troublecode. While this code is triggered, the cruise control is disabled.

The clutch pedal start switch is the other switch that is mounted lower and is more accessible. It was installed on all 2003-2007 Ions with manual transmission. This switch works in the opposite manner compared to the clutch pedal position switch. The button on this switch is only pressed when the clutch pedal is pushed to the floor. This closes the circuit and allows the starter to be engaged. This part does not affect the cruise control. This part is GM p/n 22620888 or AC Delco p/n D1574G.

On 2003-2004 Ions with manual transmission, the ECM monitors the engine RPM relative to vehicle speed. If the engine RPM is too high or too low relative to a given speed, the cruise control will be released and/or not allowed to be set at all. Because of this, the cruise control is released by the ECM when the engine RPM starts to rise due to clutch slippage and/or clutch release if you don't first tap the brake pedal or turn the cruise switch off.
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Thanks a look for the replies. The part number helped a lot because I do not know what the sensors look like I just know there are two. I will try to adjest the one sensor as suggested then if it does not work, I will replace it. Thank you very much!
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The part you may need is the clutch pedal position switch. This is mounted at the very top of the clutch pedal assembly (see picture below). and was only installed on 2005-2007 Ions with manual transmission (and cruise control). The clutch pedal assembly must be removed to replace this switch because it is nearly impossible to access this switch without doing so. This part is GM p/n 22734989 or AC Delco p/n D2270C. Both clutch switches have adjustable positions to ensure they function properly so I'd check this before replacing any parts.
Just to update this post. I was able to replace the clutch pedal position switch WITHOUT removing the clutch pedal assembly. Yes, it is a bit difficult at first but once you figure out what you are looking at, it is quite easy. I did it all on my back and from the bottom of the cluster, I was able to replace the switch and actually remove the lower switch and adjust it a bit. Once I was done, I realized that the compartment that opens next to the steering wheel for storage can actually be removed and gives pretty good access to the sensor.
I replaced the sensor and have had no problems so far. Hope it helps.
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The part you may need is the clutch pedal position switch. This is mounted at the very top of the clutch pedal assembly (see picture below). and was only installed on 2005-2007 Ions with manual transmission (and cruise control). The clutch pedal assembly must be removed to replace this switch because it is nearly impossible to access this switch without doing so. This part is GM p/n 22734989 or AC Delco p/n D2270C. Both clutch switches have adjustable positions to ensure they function properly so I'd check this before replacing any parts.

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The primary function of the clutch pedal position switch is to immediately alert the ECM when the clutch pedal is pressed. This switch is mounted to the fixed metal part of the clutch pedal assembly. It has a button on it that is pressed in by an extension of the clutch pedal whenever the pedal is fully released. When the clutch pedal is pressed, this button is released which opens the circuit and tells the ECM to release the cruise control. If you "ride the clutch" (read: rest your foot on the clutch pedal - which one should never do) this can cause the circuit in this switch to open & close intermittently since the circuit opens near the start of the clutch pedal motion. The ECM may interpret this behavior as a faulty switch and trigger the P0833 troublecode. While this code is triggered, the cruise control is disabled.

The clutch pedal start switch is the other switch that is mounted lower and is more accessible. It was installed on all 2003-2007 Ions with manual transmission. This switch works in the opposite manner compared to the clutch pedal position switch. The button on this switch is only pressed when the clutch pedal is pushed to the floor. This closes the circuit and allows the starter to be engaged. This part does not affect the cruise control. This part is GM p/n 22620888 or AC Delco p/n D1574G.

On 2003-2004 Ions with manual transmission, the ECM monitors the engine RPM relative to vehicle speed. If the engine RPM is too high or too low relative to a given speed, the cruise control will be released and/or not allowed to be set at all. Because of this, the cruise control is released by the ECM when the engine RPM starts to rise due to clutch slippage and/or clutch release if you don't first tap the brake pedal or turn the cruise switch off.
Thanks!!! I was able to fix my ongoing problem with this post answer. I knew about the lower switch, not the upper switch as it rarely comes out or unclips. I clip it back to place and bingo , my cruise works again. That must have happen from bleeding the clutch pushing the pedal in repetition. Neways! I got magic fingers i know, did not need to take the pedal out!
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