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Old 10-31-2006, 11:32 PM   #1
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Would there be any gain in handling by using wheel spacers? Other than you could fit wider tires.... I was curious if there would be any performance gain with the extra width. I suppose since the spacers are 5mm, it wouldnt be enough to do squat...

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Would there be any gain in handling by using wheel spacers? Other than you could fit wider tires.... I was curious if there would be any performance gain with the extra width. I suppose since the spacers are 5mm, it wouldnt be enough to do squat...
front wheel and/or rear hub spacers would allow you to fit wider tires and they would increase the track both which would give more cornering grip.

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Old 11-01-2006, 12:17 AM   #3
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So even if I don't change the tires, the extra 5mm width would help out?

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Old 11-01-2006, 12:30 AM   #4
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Yes, it helps.

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Old 11-01-2006, 12:38 AM   #5
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Alright, thanks.

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Old 11-01-2006, 01:46 AM   #6
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Well, I found wheel spacers for the front on sps, but they say to use hub spacers for the back, but they don't carry them. Any ideas?

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Old 11-01-2006, 01:59 AM   #7
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yes it helps and yes u shuld buy spair axles if u get them

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Old 11-01-2006, 03:20 AM   #8
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I saw on one of the race cars they just used the wheel spacers in the back, not hub spacers. They had to use longer studs for 10mm spacers. Why axles if using spacers?

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Old 11-01-2006, 03:58 AM   #9
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im not sure what all u are asking

i can tell u y they put spacers on the back and not the front

its cuz the rear track isnt as wide as the font. here is a pic of my car with 15"rims all 4 are 35mm offset and all 4 have the same 205/50/15 tires on them



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Old 11-01-2006, 04:57 AM   #10
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Well, I found wheel spacers for the front on sps, but they say to use hub spacers for the back, but they don't carry them. Any ideas?
As for the rear spacers you have a few choices.
1. Get your own made out of some steel by using a rear hub to get the specs for fitment you will also need some spacers made from the same steel and thickness for the rear caliper bolts as well. Those look like washers and should be the same thickness of the hub spacer you just had made or made yourself. The washer type spacer is used to remove the gap which is formed when using rear hub spacers. The caliper bolts go through them (if I got this right I am tired over here and please correct me if I am wrong). This would be just like the SPS rear hub spacers.

2. Find a set of SPS rear hub spacers on eBay if you can find them. They are out there from time to time. I saw a set just before the summer but I donít think they sold. Maybe the person will post them up again?

3. The same spacers youíre looking at for the front can be used in the rear as well but only with drum brakes since the rear disc setup will use up most of the hub surface.
I have some photos of the SPS rear hub spacers I am just on the wrong comp right now or I would post it for you.
Good luck with your search.

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http://www.teamscr.com/205vs225.html



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Old 11-01-2006, 08:56 AM   #11
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Increasing the rear track without doing anything to the front will add rear grip and increase understeer. The converse is true when spacing the front.

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Old 11-01-2006, 09:15 AM   #12
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Ian at www.qksltwo.com has wheel spacers, at least he did, and www.spswebpage.com had a hub spacing kit too.

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Old 11-01-2006, 03:34 PM   #13
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Here is what I think he might be looking to do? Not sure exactly but dose sound like it.
http://www.teamscr.com/205vs225.html



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Ya, that's the site I was looking at. They used wheel spacers for the front and back, 5mm at first. in the back, 5mm wasn't enough, so they had to step up to 10mm. Then they didn't have enough room so they had to use longer wheel studs.

I was planning on doing it to the front and back, but I'll run out with a tape measure and see if the back is narrower than the front. If that's so, maybe I'll start out with the back. Or do the 5mm in front, 10mm in back.

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Ian at www.qksltwo.com has wheel spacers, at least he did, and www.spswebpage.com had a hub spacing kit too.
sps didn't have a hub kit when I looked last night. They just had the spacers, which use the existing studs. They would work for my front. qksltwo had the spacers that come with studs, so they will work in the back. Thanks.

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Well, I found wheel spacers for the front on sps, but they say to use hub spacers for the back, but they don't carry them. Any ideas?
contact john (from sps) he may have a way to get you a set of hub spacers. even if it's selling you the specs so a local machine shop can do it for you...


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Well, I found them on quiksltwo's page. But that's a good idea, there's a few things that sps used to carry, I could try emailing them and seeing if it might be possible to special order them. Or get the specs...

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You should be able to just make them yourself or have a machine shop do it. I recommend the second of the two. With the rear hub off you can get your measurements for the spacer by using paper and pen or get yourself an ink stamp press the rear hub on it then press on the paper perfect outline. Now the caliper spacer will take a little more effort. Test fitting large washers will get you what your looking for the bolts to fit through and outside diameter of the caliper spacer. Having them made or making them yourself would allow more control over the thickness you want 5mm to 10mm.
Measure twice maybe three times cut once if youíre doing it yourself. Test fit with some sheet metal to get the right size before going at it with the steel.

Suggestion for the steel could come from a set of leaf springs (junk yard) they come in very handy for all sorts of stuff. Youíre just stuck with the thickness of them unless you get them from a large truck. Get your parts together your measurements and head off to a machine shop so it will come out as close to perfect as can be. Or just take a rear hub to a machine shop and ask what they can do? Fabrication is your friend.




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