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Old 03-08-2019, 04:56 PM   #1
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Default Looking for new wheels- let's talk size

I have a '02 SC1

I am looking to possibly get some new, bigger wheels. I want to fill the wheel well more. Something sportier. I mainly will use them during the warm months. I don't necessarily want to lower the car any, but may consider it. I know that going bigger on wheel diameter throws off the speedometer, but that's not too big of a deal to me. Once I know what 30mph and 60mph translates to I will just remember plus I have speedo on my gps.

I'm thinking of going with 16x7 wheels. 38-40mm offset. 205/60 tires. I assume it would fit if I didn't modify the stock ride height, but just double checking. Any suggestions/feedback/recommendations?

P.s. i'll probably keep the steel wheels and narrow 185 tires for winter

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Old 03-09-2019, 11:29 AM   #2
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Default Re: Looking for new wheels- let's talk size

It won't be off by much if you "up size" to 215/50R16 (0.1" off), 205/60 is over 1.3" taller. Taller means slower, less fuel mileage and with that big of a sidewall it cant be much fun in the corners. If the speedometer isn't reading correctly the odometer won't be counting miles correctly either which has a big impact on the car's value.


Play around with size's here: http://www.rimsntires.com/specspro.jsp (note: the site doesn't check if the size you want actually exists, so you could come up with many many theoretical size's that nobody actually makes)
Stock tire size's:
175/70R14 (default on base model SOHC's, nobody using their head "options" it lol)
185/65R14 (not sure what it's default on, optional SOHC)
185/65R15 (default on SL2/SW2, optional on most)
195/60R15 (default on SC/SC2, optional most)

Various size's people have tried on their S-Series and what they did (if anything) to make them fit: https://sixthsphere.com/archive/index.php/t-72349.html

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Old 03-11-2019, 01:45 PM   #3
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Default Re: Looking for new wheels- let's talk size

Well it looks like I may lower my car at some point then!

I also do not like how the rear wheels as tucked under the car so much. I know that the 7" rims with 205s will help with that a little, but I was thinking spacers in the rear to get the wheels out more with the fender.. Anything against spacers? Any recommendations?

What is the easiest, most budget friendly way of lowering these cars? just a modest drop - maybe an inch or two

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Old 03-12-2019, 12:21 PM   #4
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Default Re: Looking for new wheels- let's talk size

The cheapest way to lower the car is to cut off a coil or two, but normal people find that too sketchy to run for very long.

The cheapest & safe way to lower the car is to get lowering springs. Ebaich and H&R make sets with 2" or 1.4" drops, the H&R part number is 54341 ($195 at TireRack).

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Old 03-26-2019, 03:51 PM   #5
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And I'd be ok using these springs with the stock struts?

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Old 03-26-2019, 06:54 PM   #6
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Default Re: Looking for new wheels- let's talk size

First, you need to understand what the numbers on a tire mean..

First number is tire width, 185 millimeters wide...
Second number is sidewall height, as a percentage of width, 60% of 185...
Third number is rim diameter, 15 inches...

Hence, a 205/60R15 fits on 15 OEM Saturn S Series rims, and is a little larger, but is wider...

Look at General RT43s in 205/60R 15, H speed rating.
You can inflate them to 44 for fuel economy, or 35 for ride comfort.

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Old 03-26-2019, 06:56 PM   #7
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Tire calculator...

https://tiresize.com/calculator/

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Old 04-15-2019, 10:49 AM   #8
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Default Re: Looking for new wheels- let's talk size

I have 205/55/16's on alloys from a Saturn Ion. My car is lowered an inch and a half on H&R's. The tires are a bit too big but that's what the rims came with and they only rub turned all the way to lock and reversing. So I can live with that.

The perfect size would be 205/50/16 to replicate the stock tire OD.

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