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Old 12-11-2019, 04:46 PM   #1
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Chicken Soup For The S-Series' Soul!

Moral of the story: Take it to the track!

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Old 12-11-2019, 08:50 PM   #2
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There's a corner on my drive home from work that I almost always take at about 45mph in my 98 SL2, and it's hilarious to me because a buddy of mine at work with a lowered Miata is scared to take it much faster than 30, and he can't fathom how I can take it at 45 in my 21 year old econobox Saturn lol. Truth is, this light little car with nothing more than some aftermarket 16"s and some 225 wide BFG Comp 2 tires STICKS to the road. She'll get outrun by a Prius on the highway, but she corners surprisingly well

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Old 12-11-2019, 10:04 PM   #3
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A wonderful story from the past (Chicken Soup for the S-series' Soul). I enjoyed the story of an underestimated car able to run past better equipped vehicles with less than experienced drivers in certain track conditions. Much like the past year of 1/4 track shaming videos of ice cars beaten by Teslas. I couldn't afford (or maybe didn't want to learn how poorly I would be on a track if I went to racing school) and now too old to pursue it but I too have a nice story albeit not as sensational.

My L300 is a plain jane 4dr sedan of modest power (180hp) with typical front wheel drive but independent rear suspension and 205-55x16 tires. There's a short turn under one NYC bridge. The south bound turn always shows brake lights while I let off at well above posted speed limit to pass cars in my upscale Tupperware. Every car and suv brakes when entering this turn. I presume they are simply afraid to take this turn well above posted limits (25/30 mph?) This turn under the main bridge feeds one lane to the bridge (right) while allowing two left lanes to go under and around the overhead bridge traffic. This old roadway can never be expanded (two lanes in each direction) as the fixed widths ends at the stone walls on each side of the bridge support base. Seeing the wall looming up (no commercial traffic) into the turn (about 15 feet high or more) with zero runoff with old school steel barriers to keep runaways from damaging the stone wall seems to put fear into many. I know I've exceeded twice the speed limit when entering this turn if I know no one is in front of me and drive this local route at least once a week (plenty of practice to judge speed, traction in wet/dry/icy conditions). While nowhere near having track experience, being one with the car sometimes allows a person to learn his/her limits without damaging sheet metal. I suppose the narrowness of these two lanes without room for error makes many brake. Even those entering the turn fast brake near the middle of the turn when they realize too late their lack of knowing their limits. Too bad I'm too old to enroll in a high speed racing course. I'd probably be overconfident with new found training and mar the wall. I'll definitely enroll the day I win the lottery to afford bending my Ferrari, Lambo, Rolls, Mclaren, Aston Martin and Jaguar - in my dreams.

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Old 12-12-2019, 04:55 AM   #4
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The S-Series agility in corners is really something that most people don't expect from an old economy car. Recently I put new tires on my 93 SC1 and its like driving on rails!

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Old 12-15-2019, 08:30 AM   #5
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The S-series cars are low and wide with tall tires at all four corners. They are relative slot cars compared to the rest of whats on today’s roads. Their center of gravity and driver’s height in the seat is as we all know, low. I drive mine gingerly most of the time but I do love how it hums along on the highway more than the big tall SUV alternatives I drive.

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Old 12-15-2019, 09:28 AM   #6
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The S-series cars are low and wide with tall tires at all four corners. They are relative slot cars compared to the rest of whats on today’s roads. Their center of gravity and driver’s height in the seat is as we all know, low. I drive mine gingerly most of the time but I do love how it hums along on the highway more than the big tall SUV alternatives I drive.
Now that I do a lot of night highway driving.... I'm not liking the seat height. Between modern vehicle lights and people running their brights I'm always feeling blinded or people are breathing down my neck. I'm forced to use the dimming mirror, which I don't like, and it doesn't help with the side mirrors of course.

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Old 12-15-2019, 11:14 AM   #7
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Most people pass me in disgust with their more modern cars as if I don't deserve to be on the road with such an old econo box. Could be the smells coming from the exhaust, coupled with the noise and lack luster accelerations...

Then a turn comes up and 90% of these fancy new cars cannot keep up. I can easily double the recommended ramp speed limits and my S series takes it like a champ.

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The S-series cars are low and wide with tall tires at all four corners. They are relative slot cars compared to the rest of whats on today’s roads. Their center of gravity and driver’s height in the seat is as we all know, low. I drive mine gingerly most of the time but I do love how it hums along on the highway more than the big tall SUV alternatives I drive.
Have you driven a Subaru Outback? My sister has a new used one, with about 75k miles on it and looks new outside and in. Her family went away on vacation so I got to retrieve the mail and select among their fleet of vehicles to drive; Maxima, an old 5-speed Subie, Toyota Corolla and new/used Outback. I dragged their daughters stuff back from college one year and was tooling along in light to moderate rain when I noticed I was passing vehicles - I was speeding a little more than every vehicle on the road including suvs. I had to look down at the speedometer but always felt comfortable with ride, suspension and handling. This Outback is solid. Last winter my bil drove us to a local ski area in NJ. We stayed until closing as the last few hours dropped fresh snow so we could enjoy some fresh powder. When we left, the roads were covered in fresh snow, about 3-4 inches around 10 pm. Everyone was off the roads except for the snow plows. He said he felt the traction give way at times (traction control light flashing) but four wheel drive kept us moving and I never felt more comfortable riding shotgun. Never felt breaking traction. We wandered thru fresh snow still dropping until we stopped for a very late dinner. No one was in the restaurant as we ate. My bil was completely confident of not being stuck in snow not yet plowed. The mountain roads were relatively easy for this 4wd Outback as well as the main three lane highways as we left NJ for NYC and Long island. I was impressed. I don't know if other full time 4wd has traction like this Outback. Not an suv and more old school station wagon with awd. While I don't need 4wd with more moving parts, this one is impressive for a 4 cyl engine of modest power. A rare combination of great fuel mileage, awd, wagon space, quiet and firm ride without driving an SUV.

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