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Old 12-21-2012, 09:54 AM   #1
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I was just reading about the history of the Astra lineup.

Does the Saturn Astra XR = the Opal Astra GTC?

Also, in pictures it looks like the GTC has backup sensors available...was that ever offered on the Saturn? What other differences exist between the Opal and the Saturn versionsof the Astra?

...and WTF doesn't GM just sell Opals in the US?

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Old 12-21-2012, 10:23 AM   #2
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It's spelled Opel not Opal!

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Old 12-22-2012, 12:36 AM   #3
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They don't sell Opel Brand in NA because they already have too many companies here in NA but they do sell Opels under Buick now

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Old 12-22-2012, 07:11 AM   #4
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They don't sell Opel Brand in NA because they already have too many companies here in NA but they do sell Opels under Buick now
Well, define too many. Over there, they have ALOT more brands. NA restrictions but a kabosh on most of them coming over...just as the case of the good engine in the Astra; couldn't meet our emission regulations.

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Old 12-22-2012, 10:19 PM   #5
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if i remember correctly, when the astra came to the states in 08 as a sort of experiment, they brought the middle of the line motor with plans to expand the line up as time went on.

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Old 12-23-2012, 12:59 AM   #6
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too many as GM had to down size because they couldnt make money

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Old 12-26-2012, 02:34 PM   #7
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I was just reading about the history of the Astra lineup.

Does the Saturn Astra XR = the Opal Astra GTC?

Also, in pictures it looks like the GTC has backup sensors available...was that ever offered on the Saturn? What other differences exist between the Opal and the Saturn versionsof the Astra?

...and WTF doesn't GM just sell Opals in the US?
I don't believe our XRs have any direct equal outside of North America. The GTC was a sportier version with a more powerful engine, larger wheels, and a few other things. The XR is more of a mid-range version, with a lot of standard features that base model Opels/Vauxhalls/Holdens would have to pay extra for (if even available). The XR (3dr, and possibly 5dr) have better brakes than the base model, projector headlights (non-adjustable), OnStar, and probably a few other things I don't know about. The top-end Opels/etc are available with factory HID projector headlight assemblies that feature manual leveling -- something our projector assemblies do not. The inclusion of OnStar takes up the Aux Input on our radios, which means that if you want to directly add an iPod or whatever, you have to disable the OnStar. Oh, and we got cup holders.

It is a little frustrating that our Astras are "mostly similar" to non-North American Astras, but just different enough that you can't get easy answers to 100% of your questions. If the US economy hadn't tanked (and forced GM into bankruptcy protection), who knows... the Saturn line could have become Opel of North America to compete directly with VW.

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Old 12-26-2012, 05:26 PM   #8
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I don't believe our XRs have any direct equal outside of North America. The GTC was a sportier version with a more powerful engine, larger wheels, and a few other things. The XR is more of a mid-range version, with a lot of standard features that base model Opels/Vauxhalls/Holdens would have to pay extra for (if even available). The XR (3dr, and possibly 5dr) have better brakes than the base model, projector headlights (non-adjustable), OnStar, and probably a few other things I don't know about. The top-end Opels/etc are available with factory HID projector headlight assemblies that feature manual leveling -- something our projector assemblies do not. The inclusion of OnStar takes up the Aux Input on our radios, which means that if you want to directly add an iPod or whatever, you have to disable the OnStar. Oh, and we got cup holders.
GTC is/was the designation given to the 3-door Astra bodystyle, like the 2-door Kia Forte is called Forte Koup. The Astra OPC (Opel)/VXR (Vauxhall)/HSV (Holden) would be more powerful, firmer suspension, sportier bodywork models (probably Red Line if they had made it to Saturn).

The Saturn 3-door would be comparable to the Astra GTC, but like you covered XR was a trim and probably mid-level in the lineup at other brands. As with the whole Astra line, the GTC offered more trims, engines, and features that Saturn didn't (but maybe would have eventually).

Even now Buick offers some more of what Opel does in the Verano (Astra sedan) and the Regal (Insignia), but still not everything.

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Old 12-27-2012, 02:29 AM   #9
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This was the reason I replaced the XR badge with a GTC one when I got my 3-door this summer

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It's spelled Opel not Opal!
Maybe it should be spelled "Opal" because these cars are real "gems". Yes, I am old enough to remember in the 1970's and 1980's when Manta's, GT's and Ascona's for sale had the name Opel mispelled routinely in the personal classified car ads. You would think that the owner could read the name plate on their own car. No harm done, but it is still kind of funny to me to this day.

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Old 01-07-2014, 09:23 PM   #11
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if i remember correctly, when the astra came to the states in 08 as a sort of experiment, they brought the middle of the line motor with plans to expand the line up as time went on.
IIRC, we got the 1.8 because it was the only engine in Opel's lineup that offered an automatic transmission option.

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Once my 15 posts are done ill upload pics of my Astra 1.9CDTI GTC

Other options available on the Opel Astra included

Xenon headlights
18' Penta rims
Bluetooth
Navigation
Keyless entry
Keyless start
AFL Headlights
Auto wipers
Auto lights
PDC
Folding mirrors
Full leather seats (heated)
6 speed box

Plus a few others I cant remember and the OPC's had the cup holder behind the handbrake but anyone could buy it from GM

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Adam Opel AG (Opel) is a German automobile manufacturer headquartered in Rüsselsheim, Hesse, Germany and a subsidiary of the American General Motors Company. The company designs, engineers, manufactures and distributes Opel-branded passenger vehicles, light commercial vehicles and vehicle parts for distribution in Africa, Asia, Europe and South America. Opel designed and manufactured vehicles are also sold under the Buick brand in the United States, Canada, Mexico and China and the Vauxhall brand in the United Kingdom.

Opel traces its roots to a sewing machine manufacturer founded by Adam Opel in 1862. The company began manufacturing bicycles in 1886 and produced its first automobile in 1899.

Opel became a share-limited company (German: Aktiengesellschaft) in 1929; United States-based General Motors took a majority stake in Opel that same year. General Motors assumed full control in 1931 and today Adam Opel AG is a wholly owned subsidiary of General Motors Company. Although Adam Opel AG continues to be a share-limited company, shares of the company are not publicly listed. Adam Opel AG is the parent company of General Motors UK Limited, better known as Vauxhall, and various other General Motors subsidiaries.

During the 1970s and 1980s, Opel and Vauxhall ranges were rationalised into one consistent range across Europe.

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