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Old 03-30-2003, 01:45 PM   #1
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Default Winter tires cheap performance tires?

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i was wondering. is a winter tire a cheap performance tire?
their botht he same type fo compound? both soft and made to stick if heated, but the tire design is the same but onyl real thing is the tires are a little diff in the thred area...


whats your oponion?

winter tires cheap alternative to performance tires?

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Old 03-30-2003, 08:30 PM   #2
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Depends on what you mean by "winter" tire. Most SNOW tires I've seen have tread patterns resembling mudder tires found on Jeeps...

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Old 03-30-2003, 11:43 PM   #3
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Nope. The huge gaps between tread blocks will let the tread fold over onto itself; tire will slide on that. Sort of like having really tall 80-series tires. Note the deflection of a new pencil eraser vs a well-worn one for an extremely simplified explanation.

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To add to what has been said, the side walls are usually softer as well. Are winter tires really that much cheaper than a decent performance tire?

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Old 03-31-2003, 11:15 AM   #5
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Nope. Not at all. Winter tires have extensive siping in order to obtain traction. Sipes are the very narrow slits in the tread which grab snow and hang onto it (snow grabs snow pretty well). These same sipes increase tread squirm, which generates more heat. It is usually pretty rare when you see snow tires with a greater than "H" speed rating, and those ratings north of "Q" are fairly expensive. A good set of Dunlop SP Sport A2s is much cheaper than the Dunlop SP Winter Sport M2.

Winter tires are great in the winter, but exactly what you DON'T want in a performance tire. Good performance tires have large tread blocks for gripping pavement, but are less than adequate for grabbing snow.

It goes beyond the softness of the tread compound. Tread design and temperature handling are at least as important as compound when it comes to high performance tires.

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Old 03-31-2003, 03:04 PM   #6
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no. winter tires are designed for cold, snow, ice. using winter tires in non-winter will chew them up and they will handle badly. if you want something cheap, but good. try the all-season dunlop d60-a2 or sp sport a2. they are about $50 each in the stock 15-inch sizes. take a look on www.tirerack.com for better explainations.

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