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Old 03-27-2009, 03:25 PM   #1
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Hey guys,

In this upcoming build, pretty much the whole rear deck will be cut away in my 97 SL2...what Im wanting to know is how much structural support is provided by the rear deck?..Im think it's a good amount because in that area of the car there simply isnt much connecting the sides of the car.

The enclosure going in will be connected to both sides of the car and will be solid, hopefully this would provide any support that was lost by the rear deck being cut away...im just wondering.

And once this is finish the car will be driven nice and easy too, since it'd be primarily for competitions and it'll have plenty of weight in the back too (I may be upgrading my rear suspension for this as well...we'll see)

Any comments/concerns would be helpful, thanks in advance.

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Old 03-27-2009, 08:35 PM   #2
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I'd start looking into a rear strut tower bar.

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Old 03-28-2009, 03:10 PM   #3
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With what Im doing I cant really do that

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Old 03-28-2009, 04:13 PM   #4
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well you could try to make a custom strut bar that is either tall enough to clear what your going to put in there or is built into what your making

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Old 03-28-2009, 05:20 PM   #5
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Yea, that's what ive been thinking...I may have to weld together some steel etc. to make my own strut bar of sorts that will run through the enclosure

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Old 03-28-2009, 05:24 PM   #6
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I second that

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Old 03-28-2009, 05:42 PM   #7
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Yea, im thinking im going to have to weld supports accrossed the rear deck area where they can fit and do it that way...how much steel do you guys think would be plenty to not have to worry about it..? Like (4-5) 1" square tubes sound like enough?..pretty sure that'd be plenty...

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Old 03-29-2009, 01:31 AM   #8
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yeah you could probably get away with 2 i'm sure whatever your putting in the car is going to be heavy so save weight where you can

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Old 03-29-2009, 03:13 AM   #9
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Just weld in a roll-bar type of beam that parallels the top of the inside space or the bottom of the rear window between the rear strut towers and call it a day.

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Old 03-29-2009, 09:06 AM   #10
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Really if you think about it, the SW plat form has no braceing or anything in the rear, the only thing Id be worried about, is without a stb in the rear I've noticed that the wagons flex a good amount, so I believe you may be able to get away with just a simple stb, and nothing more.
actually if you think about it, the Sw has alot less than what your going to have... theres no trunk opening etc etc...

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Old 03-30-2009, 04:05 PM   #11
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Thanks for the responses guys.

But ive been thinking more about just leaving the square tube portion of the rear deck intact and working the enclosure around it just a little, Im pretty sure that's the main support of sorts and with that intact it should be pretty good...i assume?

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Old 03-30-2009, 04:44 PM   #12
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Yeah make it really high. Like those ricer spoilers. lol Too tall and it won't be effective.

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Old 03-30-2009, 06:37 PM   #13
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Yeah make it really high. Like those ricer spoilers. lol Too tall and it won't be effective.
Huh? lol

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Really if you think about it, the SW plat form has no braceing or anything in the rear, the only thing Id be worried about, is without a stb in the rear I've noticed that the wagons flex a good amount, so I believe you may be able to get away with just a simple stb, and nothing more.
actually if you think about it, the Sw has alot less than what your going to have... theres no trunk opening etc etc...
The wagons have a roof structure. Plus, the gen-2 wagons have a rear seat cross-brace, albeit in place only when the seat is up.

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Huh? lol
I was talking about the rear stb. If the height of the stb is too high, it will be worthless.

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Hey are ported boxes better in general?

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Hey are ported boxes better in general?
Depends on what youre going for and who you are, really...but IMO, ported is the way to go.

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what do you mean by what am I going for.... quality. I don't care how loud it is. I can rattle my car to pieces or I can have a good quality sorround sound like system. All depends on what level the bass is at and how many pages the bass is bumped up... along with the other features I don't understand. I am confident I can get my windows to shatter from the vibration. lol.

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what do you mean by what am I going for.... quality. I don't care how loud it is. I can rattle my car to pieces or I can have a good quality sorround sound like system. All depends on what level the bass is at and how many pages the bass is bumped up... along with the other features I don't understand. I am confident I can get my windows to shatter from the vibration. lol.
...I havent seen your setup but im pretty sure you have nothing to worry about as far as damage to your car...my car has seen a lot of punishment and has pretty much nothing to show for it besides my sunroof starting to be pushed up and my rear view mirror is just taken off, ive given up on it..

But you pretty much answered your question...the enclosure really depends on if you want to get loud or sound it's best....and honestly a well designed and built ported enclosure can sound just as good if not better than a sealed enclosure imo

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