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Old 04-28-2008, 07:08 AM   #1
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Default Stubborn wheel bearing hub assembly 2005 Vue, help!

Hey there, I've read a few threads here about removing/changing hub assemblies and the different methods to break the corrosion between the hub and knuckle. After two attempts of a couple hours each I've all but given up on being able to remove the old hub.

It's the driver's side front bearing assembly. I've removed all the bolts/nuts easily, but cannot break the corrosion. I've banged and banged, and pryed but no luck. In fact three of us took turns. The spindle is backing out easily so it's actually just the hub assembly that is seized. I live in eastern Canada so there is alot of salt corrosion here.

Any suggestions would be appreciated, I'm very much a DIY guy and to have to bring this to a shop because this is standing in my way doesn't sit well with me. The job seems so easy in theory.

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Old 04-28-2008, 08:59 AM   #2
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Hey there, I've read a few threads here about removing/changing hub assemblies and the different methods to break the corrosion between the hub and knuckle. After two attempts of a couple hours each I've all but given up on being able to remove the old hub.

It's the driver's side front bearing assembly. I've removed all the bolts/nuts easily, but cannot break the corrosion. I've banged and banged, and pryed but no luck. In fact three of us took turns. The spindle is backing out easily so it's actually just the hub assembly that is seized. I live in eastern Canada so there is alot of salt corrosion here.

Any suggestions would be appreciated, I'm very much a DIY guy and to have to bring this to a shop because this is standing in my way doesn't sit well with me. The job seems so easy in theory.

thanks alot.
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Remove the knuckle and take the whole mess to a machine shop and have them press the the hub out. It takes a little longer, but it will save a lot of wear and tear on you and on your vehicle (as opposed to banging on things with a hammer).

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Old 04-28-2008, 09:05 AM   #3
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Default Re: Stubborn wheel bearing hub assembly 2005 Vue, help!

Thanks for the help,

What is involved in removing the entire knuckle? If i could get the whole thing off i'd say it'd make it easier to remove the hub as I could give it a few smacks from behind. I'm amazed that people say things like "a few taps and it should slide off" while mine might as well be welded there. Bolts weren't bad. Thinking about using some PB Blaster and the reversed wheel trick. People seem to put alot of stock into penetrators like PB Blaster. Would a slide hammer be useful to yank it off?

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Old 04-28-2008, 09:56 AM   #4
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Have you tried PB Blaster (good stuff) and a torch? Remember, a penetrant like PB Blaster works toward the heat. I haven't had to do a wheel bearing yet, but is there a way to heat the hub from the back side without melting a bunch of things you don't want to melt?

Also a trick from other bearings that I've dealt with is to bolt the wheel back in place and then kick the edges of the wheel to add leverage. Would this work?

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Old 04-28-2008, 03:30 PM   #5
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Default Re: Stubborn wheel bearing hub assembly 2005 Vue, help!

i'm gonna get some PB Blaster and let it soak for a few hours. Just another question is there anything else holding the hub in when i have the axle but and three backside bolts removed? any snap rings? or is that flimsy peice (i assume it's a bracet for holding ABS on ABS euipped models) that is between the knuckle and the hub, doing anything to prevent it from coming out?

also, I'll probably end up trying to use the leverage of the wheel bolted back on, but wondering what is the best way to secure the car with stands?

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Old 04-28-2008, 07:42 PM   #6
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Default Re: Stubborn wheel bearing hub assembly 2005 Vue, help!

After fighting with the bearing on the drivers side of mine for 2 nights using both PB Blaster and a propane torch I removed the knuckle and took it to work with me. I put 3 longer bolts in the hub assembly from the rear and heated with an acetalyne torch then after a few hits with a hammer on the longer bolts it came free. When I did the passenger side I just removed the knuckle and took it to work. You can remove the knuckle in about 20 minutes or less. After removing the old hub from the knuckle I glass beaded the knuckle and the new bearing falls into place. I had also used a little anti-seize on the new bearing housing which the factory should have done, which would have made the whole job take about 15 minutes.

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Old 04-28-2008, 09:57 PM   #7
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Default Re: Stubborn wheel bearing hub assembly 2005 Vue, help!

that is what i think is going to have to happen. What is the process and concerns with removing the whole knuckle? Thanks.

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Old 04-29-2008, 08:40 AM   #8
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Default Re: Stubborn wheel bearing hub assembly 2005 Vue, help!

I had this problem. I eventually got it out by shimming behind the hub and wacking the shaft with a big hammer.

When the other one went bad, I paid a Chevy dealer $100 in labor to change it. It was worth it.

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Old 04-29-2008, 09:20 PM   #9
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Removing the knuckle is easy. After removing the tire/wheel remove the caliper and bracket as an assembly, remove the axle nut, separate the tie rod from the knuckle and remove the cotter pin from the lower ball joint then the nut, at this point i placed a jack under the flange on the hub and jacked it up just enough to take some weight off of the ball joint then using two hammers place one on one side of the knuckle where the ball joint goes through it and hit the knuckle on the opposite side and the ball joint should come loose remove the jack and take out both bolts holding the knuckle to the strut and remove the knuckle. Good Luck!

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Old 09-24-2011, 08:13 PM   #10
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Default Re: Stubborn wheel bearing hub assembly 2005 Vue, help!

I realize this thread is a couple of years old but for anyone who comes across this thread in the future with a similar issue of removing a stubborn wheel hub bearing from a Vue of this vintage take my advice...don't waste hours hammering yourself silly like I did. Taking the knuckle off the Vue is 15-20 minutes tops....not rocket science and a lot less aggravating.
Thanks to previous posters.
I notice the other poster who had significant trouble was also from Canada and the poster who successfully removed his was from Tennessee. I think geography is a significant factor.

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Old 09-25-2011, 07:33 PM   #11
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Default Re: Stubborn wheel bearing hub assembly 2005 Vue, help!

ok i am changing the right side wheel hub. After beating on it all day I checked here and found this. i have taken everything loose to remove the knuckle but it seems to be stuck to the drive shaft any sugestions?

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Old 09-25-2011, 08:09 PM   #12
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Well problem solved, large puller and it popped right off.

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Old 10-08-2011, 02:57 PM   #13
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Big chisel betwen hub and knuckle. Small sledge hammer to start it moving. Then a BIG sledge hammer from the backside, alternating striking locations. Clean the corrosion off before re-assembly and apply a liberal amount of never-seize.
When I changed them the next time around, the axle was stuck in hub, but hub came free of knuckle easily. Other side slid apart like a well-oiled machine.

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Old 03-15-2012, 03:10 PM   #14
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Bump of an older thread...

any ideas on how to get the seized hub off without taking apart the whole steering knuckle?

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See my post^^^^^.

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Old 03-15-2012, 07:22 PM   #16
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See my post^^^^^.
It's an aluminum steering knuckle.Heat wouldn't be a good idea.

If an ax head isn't making it budge, putting the tire on and kicking it is just going to hurt my foot!,lol!

DH's is going to bring home a slide hammer from work tomorrow, see if that helps. I doubt it though

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Old 03-15-2012, 07:38 PM   #17
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I think taking the steering knuckle out and pressing it out with a press is the safest/easiest way. You could try making a hub-buster, but I think in the case of the Vue you'll just end up doing damage to the car lol. I had no problem bending 2 1/4" thick steel plates on my "hub buster". I tried banging on the front ones for 2 days with a sludge-hammer without much luck.

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Removing the knuckle is easy. After removing the tire/wheel remove the caliper and bracket as an assembly, remove the axle nut, separate the tie rod from the knuckle and remove the cotter pin from the lower ball joint then the nut, at this point i placed a jack under the flange on the hub and jacked it up just enough to take some weight off of the ball joint then using two hammers place one on one side of the knuckle where the ball joint goes through it and hit the knuckle on the opposite side and the ball joint should come loose remove the jack and take out both bolts holding the knuckle to the strut and remove the knuckle. Good Luck!
I realize how old this post is, but the instructions here for separating the ball joint from the knuckle are very confusing.

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Take off knuckle..use press to remove the bearing assy...

I took the whole car in to a mechanic...he took off the knuckle and the assemblies..said it was a real ***** even with a press...Believe it, I examined the knuckle and there was a pretty good shiny gouge in the aluminum where he gripped it...

Buster is interesting though...sure wouldn't want to damage the axle...

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This is just a thank you to the whole forum; I did my 07 vue's drivers side bearing hub this past weekend and thanks to everyone here it was dead easy.

Being a Texas Vue there was not knuckle to hub sticking and I was able to do it start to finish in about 1 hour 20 minutes (including the time I spent renting the hub socket and Torque wrench)

I used the Timken part that I was directed to on amazon, which was half what AZ was asking!

For those of you that are having trouble with rust (more northern states and provinces) I watched a Youtube video where they used an air gun with a chisel to separate the hub.

Thanks everyone! and a special thanks to whoever it is that has the photos of their bearing hub change in their gallery!

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