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Old 02-16-2014, 07:17 PM   #21
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ok...new here....but how to know if you have a Gen 1, 2 or 3?......I just bought a 98 LS2....does the 2 in the LS2 mean Gen 2????
If you mean SL2, no the 2 does not mean 2nd gen, it means you have the twin cam motor. The generations are broken down by year/updated styling. 1st gen is 90-95, 2nd gen is 96-99, 3rd gen is 2000-02. So based on your year, you have the 2nd gen.

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Old 02-17-2014, 09:38 PM   #23
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Saturns were very popular here in Nova Scotia Canada because of our salty air and the massive amount of salt used on the roads in the winter. I have a 70km two way trip to work each day and see at least one GEN 1 car on the road each week. There are still all kinds of GEN2 and GEN3 cars still going. Our daily driver is a 2000 SL2 which we special ordered new in Dec 1999. This one is now at 353,000 km and is all original except for the valve body and water pump. Undercoating here is a must. Usually three wax jobs a year. I wish they still made the plastic panel cars, we may have to buy an aluminum F150 in 2015 as Ford recently announced.

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Old 02-17-2014, 10:26 PM   #24
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I am doing my part to keep many S-series on the road. I have saved and restored at least 20 Saturns from the junkyard in the past year. I mostly buy Saturns with blown engines or transmissions from Craigslist. We fix the cars almost to the level of a certified car on a dealer lot. Since I own a Saturn specialized repair shop in Tucson, I can put a lot of effort into bringing these Saturns back to life!
WOW! - You are kind of my hero! I have very little mechanical know how but I dream about having a shop like you describe. It must give you great satisfaction doing what you do. Keep it up!

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Old 02-18-2014, 04:09 AM   #25
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... but I dream about having a shop like you describe. It must give you great satisfaction doing what you do. Keep it up!
You and me both Dummo. Maybe we could open one on the Mass/CT border.

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Old 02-20-2014, 05:12 PM   #26
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^^^^ Sounds like a good plan! We can find ones like this one that are just sitting and sitting and ask the owner if they'd like us to clean up their driveway for no charge.

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Old 02-20-2014, 05:40 PM   #27
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I saw a 1st gen the other day. It was even teal, talk about 90s retro.
Personally I think the S-series has only two generations 1991-1995 and 1996-2002.

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Old 02-20-2014, 08:55 PM   #28
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I saw a 1st gen the other day. It was even teal, talk about 90s retro.
Personally I think the S-series has only two generations 1991-1995 and 1996-2002.
Where at? Could of been me lol

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Old 02-20-2014, 09:09 PM   #29
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I saw a 1st gen the other day. It was even teal, talk about 90s retro.
Personally I think the S-series has only two generations 1991-1995 and 1996-2002.
There are definitely 3 gens (in spite of what Wikipedia says) For 2000-2002, There was the addition of a BCM,,the movement of the PCM under the hood (a bad idea, IMHO) and some other mechanical changes that started in 1999, including the narrower heads and the addition of the secondary A.I.R. pump (just as some of the gen 2 changes started in 1995). That and the bodies were all restyled with new interiors. Granted,the style changes are more subtle than the gen 1-to-gen 2 changes, but they are distinctly different.

All S-series are based on the same basic mechanical platform, but there are 3 distinct generations. I think the assertion that there are only 2 generations is based on the overly simplistic distinction of OBD1 vs OBD2. But people who go trying to switch parts from a 1996 and a 2002 will find out to their dismay, that many dont fit, and any switch that relies on electronic compatibility between gen 2 and gen 3 will most likely fail.

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Old 02-20-2014, 10:02 PM   #30
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Addendum: of course, the fact that there was only one basic mechanical design for the S-series makes the three-generation division make sense.

If, for example, the ION was called the S-Series instead of the ION, then the history books would have referred to it as the second generation S-series, and what we now call 1st, 2nd and 3rd generation S-series would just be something like gen 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3 or early, middle and late first generation.

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My third Saturn was a new 2004 Ion 3 and it was as much a Saturn as the first two. We'd be calling them 'Gen 4' if Saturn hadn't renamed the cars. I was not disturbed by the slight change in the look of the nose by adding a slight bit of grill above the bumper line but was then saddened when the Ion sedan's nose went full-pedestrian in 2005 by going to the larger grille and adding the strange chrome tear ducts instead of retooling the headlights.

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Old 02-20-2014, 11:04 PM   #32
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^^^^ Sounds like a good plan! We can find ones like this one that are just sitting and sitting and ask the owner if they'd like us to clean up their driveway for no charge.

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I'll cover the Western US! I've always wanted to do this too. We could even donate some of the results to the museum when it is started.

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Old 02-21-2014, 06:08 PM   #33
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My third Saturn was a new 2004 Ion 3 and it was as much a Saturn as the first two. We'd be calling them 'Gen 4' if Saturn hadn't renamed the cars. I was not disturbed by the slight change in the look of the nose by adding a slight bit of grill above the bumper line but was then saddened when the Ion sedan's nose went full-pedestrian in 2005 by going to the larger grille and adding the strange chrome tear ducts instead of retooling the headlights.
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Old 02-21-2014, 06:15 PM   #34
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There are definitely 3 gens (in spite of what Wikipedia says) For 2000-2002, There was the addition of a BCM,,the movement of the PCM under the hood (a bad idea, IMHO) and some other mechanical changes that started in 1999, including the narrower heads and the addition of the secondary A.I.R. pump (just as some of the gen 2 changes started in 1995). That and the bodies were all restyled with new interiors. Granted,the style changes are more subtle than the gen 1-to-gen 2 changes, but they are distinctly different.

All S-series are based on the same basic mechanical platform, but there are 3 distinct generations. I think the assertion that there are only 2 generations is based on the overly simplistic distinction of OBD1 vs OBD2. But people who go trying to switch parts from a 1996 and a 2002 will find out to their dismay, that many dont fit, and any switch that relies on electronic compatibility between gen 2 and gen 3 will most likely fail.
The body stayed pretty much the same between 1999-2000. Any other differences is too much "inside baseball".
To a non-car person there is no difference.
If people don't consider the 1974-81 Camaro a new generation (compared to 70-73) than the 2000 S-series is not a new generation either

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The body stayed pretty much the same between 1999-2000. Any other differences is too much "inside baseball".
Every panel on the body is different between Gen 2 and Gen 3 as are all the lights and lenses, though the change is more subtle than from Gen 1 to Gen 2 (although for coupes, the style changes from gen 2 to gen 3 are more significant)


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True, but to a S-series Saturn fan, there is a difference that can be significant if one is trying to find compatible parts.

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I realize it's all "inside baseball." As I mentioned with the ION example, all three S-series generations would all be lumped into "first generation" if there were a completely different S-series platform introduced, whereby the S-series as we know it would probably just have the early, middle and late first gen, or else people would be stuck with the cumbersome need to differentiate by year range, like "Say, does any one know where I can buy a right front fender for a late first gen SL2 (2000-2002)?"

But since there was only one S-series "generation", there are three distinct periods within that generation. Some parts are interchangeable across all three periods, but many are not and thus using the three "generation" designation makes it easy for people "on the inside" to understand each other when talking about cars and parts.

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If people don't consider the 1974-81 Camaro a new generation (compared to 70-73) than the 2000 S-series is not a new generation either
As an addendum, you can bet that if the only Camaros that were ever made were from 1970-1981 then people would differentiate these two eras as first and second generation. But since they are based on a common platform that's diffferent from those Camaros made before 1970 and after 1981, and have more in common with each other than they do with the other Camaro generations, they get lumped together.

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i think the real question should be: Where have all the s-series gone?
i remember when i used to saturns all the time, but i barely saw any l-series or opel designs today.
I drove 200 miles between 2 states today.
I only saw 4 s-series in total driving around.
a 2nd gen coupe, 2 2nd gen sedans & a 3rd gen wagon.

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i think the real question should be: Where have all the s-series gone?
i remember when i used to saturns all the time, but i barely saw any l-series or opel designs today.
I drove 200 miles between 2 states today.
I only saw 4 s-series in total driving around.
a 2nd gen coupe, 2 2nd gen sedans & a 3rd gen wagon.
A strategic campaign by GM's "Saturn Authorized Service Providers" to strong-arm Saturn owners into feeling their Saturns aren't worth repairing, leaving only the truly committed to keeping theirs on the road (I know I'm exaggerating, but that's at least partly true). Once Saturn retailers folded and SASP's took over their service, I noticed a dramatic drop in Saturns on the road, particularly S-series cars. My personal experience after trying a few different SASP's in the Boston area is consistent with this theory.

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don't forget the stupid cash for clunkers program

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don't forget the stupid cash for clunkers program
I thought that was only for vehicles with low mpg?

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