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Old 01-26-2007, 01:00 AM   #1
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http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehi...1801.html?pg=1

They mentioned it will be built in Tenessee using the engines already used in the ION. They have good pics. It looks a lot like the Aura.
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Old 01-26-2007, 10:34 AM   #2
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They seem pretty sure of themselves even though absolutely zip has been released.

- My predictions -

XE (starting at $14,500)
- 1.8L VVT 135hp (30/40mpg)
- Hydra-Matic 4T45 automatic
- Getrag F23 5-speed manual

XR (starting at $16,500)
- 2.4L VVT 175hp (26/35mpg)
- Hydra-Matic 6T40 automatic
- Getrag F23 5-speed manual

Red Line (starting at $20,995)
- 2.0L VVT SIDI Turbo 260hp (23/32mpg)
- GM Europe F40 6-speed manual

Green Line (starting at $15,500)
- 2.4L VVT 160hp (35/39mpg)
- BAS hybrid

Greener Line (starting at $18,995)
- 2.0L VVT SIDI 160hp (59/55mpg)
- Two-mode Hybrid
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Old 01-28-2007, 03:30 PM   #3
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XR (starting at $16,500)
- 2.4L VVT 175hp (26/35mpg)
- Hydra-Matic 6T40 automatic
- Getrag F23 5-speed manual

Red Line (starting at $20,995)
- 2.0L VVT SIDI Turbo 260hp (23/32mpg)
- GM Europe F40 6-speed manual
that would be amazing! i love this car so much. Just looking at the interior of the european model, I am hoping for much better. I will be getting this car in 12-17 months from now! I am very excited! OH AND NO 4 SPEED GM!
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Old 01-29-2007, 05:01 AM   #4
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They seem pretty sure of themselves even though absolutely zip has been released.

- My predictions -

XE (starting at $14,500)
- 1.8L VVT 135hp (30/40mpg)
- Hydra-Matic 4T45 automatic
- Getrag F23 5-speed manual

XR (starting at $16,500)
- 2.4L VVT 175hp (26/35mpg)
- Hydra-Matic 6T40 automatic
- Getrag F23 5-speed manual

Red Line (starting at $20,995)
- 2.0L VVT SIDI Turbo 260hp (23/32mpg)
- GM Europe F40 6-speed manual

Green Line (starting at $15,500)
- 2.4L VVT 160hp (35/39mpg)
- BAS hybrid

Greener Line (starting at $18,995)
- 2.0L VVT SIDI 160hp (59/55mpg)
- Two-mode Hybrid
Damn if that was the price of the Greener Line , they'd have me sold!
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Old 01-29-2007, 09:08 AM   #5
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Damn if that was the price of the Greener Line , they'd have me sold!
Given that BMW and DCX absorbed some of the development cost, I'm assuming the compact two-moder will be cheaper than a Prius. Well, I'm hoping anyway.
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Old 01-29-2007, 06:57 PM   #6
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I just hope that Saturn takes a que from makes like MINI and allows buyers to custom-build-to-order these cars at any trim level. If we buy this car it'll be with the base engine and 5-speed trans (to maximize MPG), but we're going to want extras that GM usually doesn't allow on entry level cars - like heated seats, maybe a NAV (as pictured in the above linked article).

If they force me to buy a stripped down car just because I want good gas mileage, as GM often does, I'll take my business elsewhere...

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Old 02-03-2007, 01:44 PM   #7
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I'm calling bupkes on this one.

For the short-term, Astras are being imported from Belgium. Tennessee is not a done deal for North American production. It might not even be built at Lordstown, either. I'll put on my flame retardant suit now, but I can see Astras being Hecho en Mexico. With the 2008 VUE, the floodgates opened.

By midweek, I will probably be proved wrong, but at launch there will be one engine, the 145-hp 2.2L global Ecotec. If GM finds a way to equip a Euro-spec vehicle with our 2.4L mill, then hats off to them. The 1.8 or 2.0 Family engines abroad would appeal to economy-minded buyers, but without a stick, it will be a slug on our roads. Any Red Line version will essentially be an Opel Astra OPC.

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Old 02-03-2007, 10:41 PM   #8
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If the 2.2 fits, the 2.4 fits. Same block. Minimal differences, obviously the VVT head is going to be bigger, but not by much.
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It's all a moot point now. I called the one engine at launch right, but it's the 1.8L mill making 140-hp, not the 2.2L. If the 2.2L/2.4L comes at all, it won't be until production transfers to North America or dare I say it, Mexico, since that is also a possibility.

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So will there really be any difference between the launch cars made in Belgium vs the NA-built cars coming later on?

1.8L gets a thumbs up from me - I'm looking for max fuel economy. This is still an Ecotec variant tho - correct?
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So will there really be any difference between the launch cars made in Belgium vs the NA-built cars coming later on?
North American production will almost certainly include a traditional sedan version, along the lines of what is being built in Poland and Brazil, either to complement the hatches or replace the 5-door.

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1.8L gets a thumbs up from me - I'm looking for max fuel economy. This is still an Ecotec variant tho - correct?
The 1.8 is indeed a variant of Ecotec, referred to as Family I. Europe has five different variants of the Ecotec, because IIRC taxes are levied based on the displacement of the engine.

Depending on whether the 1.8L we receive is geared for speed or economy, another poster's estimate that 0-60 performance would be similar to early IONs (9-10 secs.) sounds about right.

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That article in the Car Connection is great (I always felt that Ford pulled a bait and switch with the Focus: they flew over the American press to drive the Euro spec car then did a Jack-the-Knife Nasser on equipment, and quality when they brought it over here).

That Saturn Astra hatchback looks like it could (finally) be the replacement for my 1993 SW2. I only hope the C pillar is not a huge blindspot!
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