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Old 10-29-2009, 12:12 AM   #1
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Default PSA: Check your lugnuts

I'm sure a lot of us check our tire pressures on a regular basis, however I'm sure quite a few of us don't check our lugnuts. While checking my tire pressures today, I noticed that three of the fake lugnuts were loose. Took of the cap and three of the lugnuts were so loose I could spin them by hand. Check your lugnuts with your tire pressure checks.
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Hmm, keep an eye on things. If the lug nuts are lose you may have some issues. I had issues with my Cutlass Supreme when I first got it. I wound up having to replace the wheel studs as they kept loosening up.

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Old 10-29-2009, 02:46 AM   #3
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Another thing is to check the lugnut covers... they have a way of falling off. At $4 a pop, they can get expensive. I'm thinking about just replacing mine with some aftermarket crome lugnuts and keeping the plastic caps just in case i want to return to the stock look.
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Buy a 12mm x 1.5 tap, run it through the lug nuts once in a while, you will be surprised
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Default Re: PSA: Check your lugnuts

Threads tend to get stretched as you tighten the lugnuts again and again over the life of the car. Eventually they don't match up with the studs too well anymore, or vise versa... Luckily, replacing either is a cheap and relatively simple job.

I've never had a lug nut come loose, but I have had some rust up and refuse to let go as well as get themselves buggered/stretched to the point that they'd come off halfway but not all the way.
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Put antiseize on them. Then they do not stick or rust then. Dry torque is 103ft-lb. If you use the antiseize you should reduce teh torque to 85ft-lb.
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Never use oil or grease on studs or wheel nuts. If you do, the wheel nuts might come loose. Your wheel could fall off, causing a serious accident. I make sure mine are clean and dry then torque my OE wheels to 103 ft-lbs and my aftermarket wheels with aftermarket lug nuts to 100 ft-lbs. none have gotten stuck or loosened up. I rotate my wheels and tires on a regular basis so they get re-torqued regularly.
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I know of no one who has ever had a lug nut loosen from the use of antiseize. I know of several large tire shops who use it on every wheel they do. If the nuts were coming off they would not be using it.
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Default Re: PSA: Check your lugnuts

I had a sway bar bracket come unscrewed due to antisieze. I wouldn't trust it on my lugnuts.

I clean them with a wire brush, nuts and studs both. A round brass brush from a gun cleaning kit (one of the calibers you don't use...) seems to be the ticket. Getting the crud out helps them last longer. These days I use closed end acord style nuts. They aren't open to the elements, so they seem not to get crudded up at all.
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Default Re: PSA: Check your lugnuts

Can't say I've ever had that issue - esp. as I'm the one who rotates the tires and tightens the lugnuts afterwards. A light coating of never-seize keeps rust from building up - something you'd appreciate if changing a flat tire in the rain.

Chrysler Corp. had a solution for those pesky self-loosening lugnuts forty years ago. They used to have left handed thread wheel studs on the left hand side of the vehicle - then around 1967 realized that nobody else was having an issue with their wheels falling off and changed over to the normal right hand threading for both sides.
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Chrysler Corp. had a solution for those pesky self-loosening lugnuts forty years ago. They used to have left handed thread wheel studs on the left hand side of the vehicle - then around 1967 realized that nobody else was having an issue with their wheels falling off and changed over to the normal right hand threading for both sides.
1984 Ford F-250 had LH thread on the driver's side front only...and they were interference fit

I am a fanatic about keeping the mounting surfaces like new and use antisieze and 80 ft-lb on the Sat's lug nuts. Seems tight enough. On anyone else's car, I leave them dry and torque them closer to spec.

The Owner's Manual cautions about rust on the mounting surfaces as it can dust off and cause the wheel will loosen.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:18 PM   #12
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Can't say I've ever had that issue - esp. as I'm the one who rotates the tires and tightens the lugnuts afterwards. A light coating of never-seize keeps rust from building up - something you'd appreciate if changing a flat tire in the rain.

Chrysler Corp. had a solution for those pesky self-loosening lugnuts forty years ago. They used to have left handed thread wheel studs on the left hand side of the vehicle - then around 1967 realized that nobody else was having an issue with their wheels falling off and changed over to the normal right hand threading for both sides.
VW also did this on some of their early vans. Discovering it the fun way, as you say -- in the dark, in the rain, on the side of the freeway -- is no picnic. At least the BS cast lug wrench they gave you wasn't enough to snap the studs. The wrench usually went first.
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VW also did this on some of their early vans. Discovering it the fun way, as you say -- in the dark, in the rain, on the side of the freeway -- is no picnic. At least the BS cast lug wrench they gave you wasn't enough to snap the studs. The wrench usually went first.
Discovering it the RIGHT way, reading the owner's manual while sitting inside the bus, sounds much better.
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Ill post a picture of what happens when you don't tighten your lug nuts tomorrow. I have the rim at the shop from the '01
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Ill post a picture of what happens when you don't tighten your lug nuts tomorrow. I have the rim at the shop from the '01
I bet it's not pretty. My friends Expedition had the tire fall off going down the road. It wasn't pretty.
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I bet it's not pretty. My friends Expedition had the tire fall off going down the road. It wasn't pretty.
I've seen it happen on the freeway before. Thankfully I was several dozen car lengths behind the car that the wheel came off of.
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I noticed that half of the fake lugnuts were missing off my SC2, so I went out and bought a set of locking lugnuts for it. Have to put 'em on tomorrow afternoon. (Air tools will wake the neighbors )

Hopefully I got the right size lugnuts (12x1.5, right?)
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:27 PM   #18
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I seem to remember that's the size.

Here are some lugnut stories:

I once saw someone drive a Mercury Grand Marquis into my store's paking lot on the rear brake rotor. It was some dottering old guy; I asked him conversationally where he lost the wheel and if he'd like me to call a tow truck, and he honestly had no clue it was gone until I pointed it out to him.

This is especially troubling since the Crown Vic/Grand Marquis are rear wheel drive... I think that thing must have been riding a little funny.

Some time later, another customer came by in a Grand Am who was missing three of five lugnuts on one wheel. Two of the bare studs were stripped from trying to run down a lugnut with the wrong thead. Because if it didn't work, obviously you should try it again on another stud! Their solution to "keep the wheel from coming off?" Several winds of duct tape around each stud. They balked at the dollar-and-change pricetag of a new nut for each stud, and left my parking lot the way they came. (I never did figure out how far they got.)

I was reminded of all this because I parked next to a ricer CRX yesterday that was missing two out of four lugnuts on the front left wheel. It had a very distinctive paint job, so I'm sure I'll recognize him if he ever turns up in a ditch someplace.
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Their solution to "keep the wheel from coming off?" Several winds of duct tape around each stud.
Wow, and I thought the previous owner's duct-tape "bodywork" on my car was bad.
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Classic youtube lug nut video,
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