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Old 07-19-2018, 12:41 AM   #1
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I drove to Evansville Indiana today and bought a 2001 so1 122,000 lady has owned it since 2003.
I am doing all the mounts and changing transmission fluid. Clutch feels good still. The last 15 miles home it started running kinda down on power think it had a misfire. No engine light the coolant temp sensor was the original resin sensor and it was cracked. I replaced it and it ran great in the driveway. Rotors are warped and valve cover seeps a little bit it other than that it's pretty solid.
I did notice with my little hand held code reader the live data showed the ects and the it's randomly going to -20 and stuff and the fuel trim were way out of wack but then I plugged in my mx obd link and used the mx obd link app on my phone the pids (live data) looked good. So I'm not sure what that's about. I didn't see a tune up in the paper work she had for the car that went back a couple years so I am doing one . The water pump is original should I go ahead and replace it? The radiator has been done this year as it was leaking. I plan on driving it quite a bit so whatever you think is best I'll do. Wait till the water pump shows signs or just do it now. Underneath has no rust the car is very clean for it's age. Very happy to be back in an s series again.

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Old 07-19-2018, 01:28 AM   #2
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Hey, glad to see another user in this forum in my area. I work in princeton at TMMI but drive from kentucky. Anyway, I'd bet your power loss might be due to your O/E coolant sensor. Wonky readings like the -20 that you were getting will mess up your fuel trim so pull those plugs and make sure it hasn't been running lean. As for the water pump. I'd say leave it. If the coolant has been maintained properly then its likely never seen any corrosion. Maybe just add some purple ice for added protection. Also check out reddit as there is saturn subreddit with some good people that can help also.

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Old 07-19-2018, 07:43 AM   #3
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Nice! I'd let the water pump go until it fails.

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Old 07-19-2018, 08:55 AM   #4
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Congrats!

How much did it run you? I'm tempted to get one like it for a long distance cruiser. There is one close to me for $1800 with 110K on it.

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/ct...641026230.html

For the misfire / loss of power, I had a similar issue which I believed I resolve by adding in lots of wire loom spacers (after adding in new plug and wires). So make sure you get these if missing when you do the plugs and wires.

I took my (new to me) 2001 SL2 to work today. Last night I soldered in a new ECTS connector because the existing wires were frayed/broken. Also put in a new ECTS but the old one looked OK.

I've been resolving the issue since buying it a month ago. Now I'm down to a slight but noticeable forward tranny slam and AC. I'd love to only have a manual again but no one else in the family can drive one. And I'm a little burned out after driving the Honda SI (manual) for three years in traffic.

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Old 07-19-2018, 10:41 AM   #5
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I gave 1700 for it

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Old 07-19-2018, 11:24 AM   #6
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Congrats. Not bad miles at all.
I thought that one looked pretty well taken care of in the pictures.

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Congrats!

How much did it run you? I'm tempted to get one like it for a long distance cruiser. There is one close to me for $1800 with 110K on it.

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/ct...641026230.html

For the misfire / loss of power, I had a similar issue which I believed I resolve by adding in lots of wire loom spacers (after adding in new plug and wires). So make sure you get these if missing when you do the plugs and wires.

I took my (new to me) 2001 SL2 to work today. Last night I soldered in a new ECTS connector because the existing wires were frayed/broken. Also put in a new ECTS but the old one looked OK.

I've been resolving the issue since buying it a month ago. Now I'm down to a slight but noticeable forward tranny slam and AC. I'd love to only have a manual again but no one else in the family can drive one. And I'm a little burned out after driving the Honda SI (manual) for three years in traffic.

replace your VB now before the trans is really broke.

Recommended valve body suppliers:
Contact Special Forces by PM here
Ken Partin here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/KEN-PARTIN-C...item2c80fd9280 Call him, don't just order a VB.
Or call these people (Donny IIRC) and mention Saturnfans: http://centralvalvebodies.com/

You have 3 choices and what they supply and what mods are used by each are slightly different as well is your cost. So depending on how long you want the VB to last is a consideration. As an estimate the OEM brand new VB should last 75,000 100,000 miles if the periodic filter and fluid changes are performed.

I would recommend Central Valve Bodies complete mod package VB if you plan on keeping the car.

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Old 07-19-2018, 01:31 PM   #8
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I'm working with Special Forces. He asked me to check a few more things before we replace the VB.

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Old 07-19-2018, 02:06 PM   #9
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The car is a manual. No valve bodies required!

Edit: whoops, did not realize we had diverted to another car. Still, the best way to fix an automatic is to swap in a manual as others have said.

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I agree, manual is the way to go.

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Old 07-19-2018, 04:26 PM   #11
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Hahahaha I had to read that twice , I was like mine doesn't have a valve body lol.

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