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Old 11-16-2010, 12:48 AM   #1
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Default DB Electrical starter SPR0002 question

My car is a 1992 SL2 with 5 speed manual transmission, 162,000 miles.

Since this car still has its original starter, I decided to replace it before it finally it becomes an issue.

Based of several threads in this forum, I bought a brand new unit from DB Electrical, their part number is SPR0002. A brand new (made in China) piece for $52 delivered is hard to beat.

The original is a Delco number 21020892.

The new DB starter is substantially shorter, and less bulky than the original. There is no way the original brace, which attaches to the end plate of the starter and then to the passenger side axle shaft bearing housing can be used. The nose cone looks somewhat shorter. The 2nd wire that goes to the same terminal as the positive battery cable will not reach, since the unit and solenoid are substantially shorter, there is no slack to use. Finally, it does not look like the original plastic dust shield which covers the wires to the solenoid can be used.

Does this sound similar to what others have experienced with the DB SPR0002? It looks like they have one part number for all SLs / SCs / SWs from 91-02, for auto or manual trans.

Is this unit, given its smaller size up to the job over the long haul? Is the brace essential, or now not needed with the shorter unit? How about the 2nd wire to the large terminal (looks like it is from the alternator) being too short? Would a new longer wire have to be fabricated? Is use without the plastic solenoid shield bad for long term durability?

Any other recommended alternatives for an exact replacement (would re-use the brace, plastic solenoid shield, no wiring issues)?

The original is back on for now, but would like to take care of this before it gets too cold.

Thanks.
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Old 11-16-2010, 01:25 AM   #2
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Default Re: DB Electrical starter SPR0002 question

That's weird, my unit from DB electrical looked exactly like the OEM Valeo starter that went into my 1997. I don't know if the 1992 starters were different from the factory.

Mine looked like the one on this webpage:

http://www.dbelectrical.com/p-1009-n...7-spr0002.aspx
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Old 11-16-2010, 02:41 AM   #3
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the black plastic cover can be thrown into the nearest trash can. All starters should be the same regardless of year, trans or s/dohc so maybe you got the wrong one or someone bought that one and put in a different one and returned it saying it was the wrong one or something.
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Old 11-16-2010, 01:21 PM   #4
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There are multiple versions based on the model year, although somewhat interchangeable. Please see attached pdf.
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Old 11-16-2010, 08:15 PM   #5
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Default Re: DB Electrical starter SPR0002 question

NLS,

Thanks for the PDF. It answers all the questions: the DB starter is a copy of the shorter, later Valeo starter. It bolts to the block fine.

Since it is shorter, the brace is no longer needed, but the new 21024040 harness will be needed as the existing wire from the alternator is too short.

The plastic dust shield could be held in place with a zip tie, if needed.

So, there is now need to send the starter back to DB, but I need to get the longer harness for this to work.

Thanks again.
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Old 11-17-2010, 03:29 AM   #6
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Default Re: DB Electrical starter SPR0002 question

there's really no reason to hold onto the dust cover especially since it'll be the wrong size. If you live in a hotter area like around here it may actually shorten the starter life as it will help retain heat which will probably be worse then whatever dust you have to deal with
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