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Old 04-13-2005, 09:11 PM   #101
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Honestly- the redline and the SRT-4 are evenly matched on base when compaired stock to stock. The SRT-4 is equipped with 225hp but weighs in at a hefty 2900 lbs while the ION Redline is sitting at about 205hp and weighing roughly 2590. That 310 lbs makes a BIG difference when looking at stock for stock.

But go ahead like the guy up a bit said and add on a Stage 2 or 3 kit to the SRT-4 and find someone that really KNOWS how to drive a standard, and you'll eat 90% of the cars on the road today alive.

Also one of the things that's fun to consider is that the SRT-4 engine is based off of a higher displacement varient of the 420A, the Non-Turbo engine in the Mitsubishi Eclipse \ Eagle Talon. There are companies that make the adapter plates and hardware to adapt the AWD tranny and drivetrain to that engine. Hmmm..... AWD SRT-4?
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Old 04-13-2005, 09:24 PM   #102
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Your weight spec for the redline seems a bit low.

Where did you get that number?
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Old 04-14-2005, 12:40 AM   #103
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Honestly- the redline and the SRT-4 are evenly matched on base when compaired stock to stock. The SRT-4 is equipped with 225hp but weighs in at a hefty 2900 lbs while the ION Redline is sitting at about 205hp and weighing roughly 2590. That 310 lbs makes a BIG difference when looking at stock for stock.

But go ahead like the guy up a bit said and add on a Stage 2 or 3 kit to the SRT-4 and find someone that really KNOWS how to drive a standard, and you'll eat 90% of the cars on the road today alive.

Also one of the things that's fun to consider is that the SRT-4 engine is based off of a higher displacement varient of the 420A, the Non-Turbo engine in the Mitsubishi Eclipse \ Eagle Talon. There are companies that make the adapter plates and hardware to adapt the AWD tranny and drivetrain to that engine. Hmmm..... AWD SRT-4?

Uhhh, you may wanna check your facts

the RL curb weight is a little over 2900lbs

The SRT-4 is a 2.4L and the the N/A 4cyl in the Eclipse is a 2.4L as well.
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Uhhh, you may wanna check your facts

the RL curb weight is a little over 2900lbs

The SRT-4 is a 2.4L and the the N/A 4cyl in the Eclipse is a 2.4L as well.
The 2.4 in the eclipse is a mistu motor. 2.4 in the srt is a dodge motor. They have nothing in common other than the amount of displacment. 420a is a mistu variation of the dodge designed D4RE. Both designed by dodge but the head is flipped.
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I'd go with a 300HP early SC2.
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The 2.4 in the eclipse is a mistu motor. 2.4 in the srt is a dodge motor. They have nothing in common other than the amount of displacment. 420a is a mistu variation of the dodge designed D4RE. Both designed by dodge but the head is flipped.
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I didn't say they were the same motor, I just said they were the same displacement. I dont know that much about the 2.4L in the Mitsu's

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Also one of the things that's fun to consider is that the SRT-4 engine is based off of a higher displacement varient of the 420A, the Non-Turbo engine in the Mitsubishi Eclipse \ Eagle Talon
I was replying to that comment
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well i raced an srt4 in my RL i did vary well we were side by side the hole way so in my opinyon the srt4 should be put away for good. an over priced neon. hell it doesent even look that good. and for having 230 hp it should kick my ass from hear to texas. and we were both stock.
you beat the driver not the car. a good driver will get a srt4 to run somewhere between 13.8-14.2 in the 1/4 mile. those numbers are too fast for a stock redline/cobalt ss. if you haven't driven a srt4 go to the dodge dealership and take it for a spin. and then compare it with your redline. then think about the fact you can add 3 different power stage upgrades (factory installed) for the srt4. a stg 3 installed srt4 makes 300hp. and remember dodge's horsepower rating is to the wheels.

and remember the looks of the srt4 is your opinion. just as many people would say the ion doesn't look good either. the performance numbers are fact. the supercharger on the redline/cobalt ss is what will limit its power output later down the line.
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I didn't say they were the same motor, I just said they were the same displacement. I dont know that much about the 2.4L in the Mitsu's



I was replying to that comment
No prob i wasnt trying to turn it into a bash. I actually own a 2.4 swapped first gen neon. So i know alot obout whats chrysler and whats not. Im a tech at a dealer thats where i know what i know on saturns. I still want a 95 96 sc2 though and alittle boost. Just big cams for the neon. Later Carmen
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