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Old 04-10-2019, 07:31 AM   #21
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I in like way had some rust and standing water in the most raised reason for my swaggers in California. You figure fixing the tops would keep this?
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Old 04-19-2019, 07:42 PM   #22
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I in like way had some rust and standing water in the most raised reason for my swaggers in California. You figure fixing the tops would keep this?
Just wanted to say that I replaced my busted strut mount, also did the strut too. Unfortunately I couldnít replace the passenger side because I couldnít get the strut bolt off. I think Iíll have to torch the shaft to get the coil off of that.



One other issue I encountered was the bottom coil had rusted off completely and was just sitting on the strut tray. Doesnít seem to have effected much. Probably ride a little lower but shrug. Have the car back on the road and fighting another day.
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Old 04-20-2019, 01:13 PM   #23
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Why don't you have your local shop hit the bolt with powerful air tool?
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Old 06-01-2019, 02:42 AM   #24
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So can someone tell me if the Sachs strut on rockauto is an oem for the XR astra 3dr? My mount rusted out completely and I'd like to just change the struts along with the mount. Are there any other parts that I'd need besides these two? Thanks
Sorry to comment so late to your question.

My personal guess is that the Sachs struts lend more toward the XE, but possibly better constructed than the OEMs.

I personally had very good luck with Sachs components for a 2004 Volvo S60 AWD that I had quite a bit of work done on around 170,000 miles. A bit similar to what I'm doing here: New control arms, shocks, mounts, rubber ducky parts and bolts (kept all four springs). I was pestering my mechanic about what brands he was going to use for the parts and he finally told me he'd take $200 off the $2300 estimate if I'd shut up and please let him use Sachs parts for most of it. I shut up and gave it a rest. A year later, we had to replace the prop shaft. That too was a Sachs component.

Since then, I know a doctor I work with who races Audi's some weekends and he liked Sachs for his wife's A7. He is even more particular and of course has more resources than me. Our S60 felt better than new and was fine until an ignoble death at 270K by electrical gremlins, the same gremlins that eventually take all Volvos to Valhalla.

I have not chimed in about my own car project because my budget is $400/month until it is done. Because I spent more than the first two months right off, I will be installing things in early July. Had a bit of "project creep" happen as I added components, which will be pretty much everything after I finish.

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Old 07-21-2019, 09:19 PM   #25
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Helo Astra fans,

I am getting ready to do my long delayed strut, spring, and shock installation. I have a couple questions regarding tools. In the following video, the tech reassembles the strut and springs with a 21mm ratchet in an air tool while held in the retention device. He does not use a torx tool to hold the inner portion so that it might be tightened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVpRtWN3f4E

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I was hoping for better info with my alldata account. While it addresses the need on both tightening elements, it shows what I believe is an open O2 sensor specialty ratchet. These are almost universally 22mm, NOT 21mm. None of the O2 sensor ratchets that are in my German set seem likely to handle the foot lbs. prescribed in this awkward spot; too loose as well.

Am I missing something? Is this another type of ratchet that I am ignorant of?

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Old 07-23-2019, 07:35 PM   #26
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I had previously seen that video, which does appear to have been produced by a professional organization, and noted the straightforward methods used that conflicted a bit with information elsewhere. Other than the unfortunate Mario Brothers garb, it was generally difficult to find fault with the presentation however. It may well be that use of an impact negates the need for counter force. Of course I know this will drive you mad as you won't know exact torque.

I have never seen a socket like the one pictured that wasn't 22mm(7/8). I searched a few haunts to no avail for either a single offering in 21mm or a set including same. I agree that with the required torque this would not be a 'close enough' sort of venture. The picture in the Haynes is terrible(of course) but they appear to be using a wrench with a socket bit passing through to secure the rod. No, they don't explain how they torque to spec on reassembly with this setup. Would you have room for a 21mm crowfoot? Apologies for not being more help. I've not had to do this yet.
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Old 08-26-2019, 04:45 PM   #27
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Hi,

I have a 4dr XR with the Sports Pkg (XJ2).
Can anyone tell me what the OEM part number is for the front struts?
I searched online, can't find it. I guess I could try to look on the car itself.

Are my struts the same as the 2dr struts?
Anyone else out there with a 4dr XR with the sports pkg?

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Old 08-26-2019, 11:21 PM   #28
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Check these part numbers out Gary.

https://www.wholesalegmpartsonline.c.../93195740.html

https://www.wholesalegmpartsonline.c.../93195747.html

There seems to be different part numbers for XE, XR, transmission type, climate control type, etc. LH and RH have different part numbers. Several exclude your Jaguar sport suspension XJ2. I can't believe GM had all those part numbers.

So you might call Chevy dealer with VIN and ask for OEM part numbers just to confirm.
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Old 08-28-2019, 10:12 AM   #29
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JFS

Wondering how your strut replacement went?
Did you use your HF Impact wrench to loosen and tighten the nut on top of the strut? If it worked, I'll go pick one up.
What did you use to compress the spring?

How does the car ride with the Bilsteins?

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Wondering how your strut replacement went?
Did you use your HF Impact wrench to loosen and tighten the nut on top of the strut? If it worked, I'll go pick one up.
What did you use to compress the spring?

How does the car ride with the Bilsteins?

Thanks,
Gary
My experience was a mix of good and bad, with a nice result. There are a number of impact wrenches that HF makes and with sales, their prices are all over the place. Same for their compressors. I like what I purchased.

The disassembly of everything was uneventful. Puting the new stuff on was a boitch. In all humbleness, I had to ask a shop I like to put the struts and springs together, I was not satisfied with my attempt. They did it for me at no cost, with the promise I would return for an alignment. The DIY shop I intended to use went out of business and I do not have a proper work bench to fit a vice.

The car is transformed.

I am working up a full report with pictures for this weekend.
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I found these GM part numbers on the side of my front struts:
Can someone with a two door XR tell me if the numbers match what you have?

Passenger Side:
22214604
24466545
368135153
068
BF

Drivers Side:
22214603
24466544
368135153
068
AF

I couldn't find any ACDelco number on the part.
I'm trying to find out if the 2dr xr has the same struts as the 4dr with sports pkg.

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Those numbers are difficult to cross reference. Maybe they are supplier refernce codes?

I think this is the Bilstein model for "sport" z18xer Astra's right front (22-274830)

https://www.bilstein-shocks.co.uk/products/22-274830

The secret Bilstein catalogue you can search

http://web1.carparts-cat.com/default...D018004&12=100

I also see other brands in europe including Koni, KYB, Sachs, and some unbranded (with wierd names).
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I think one of the issues is that several countries in Europe effectively have no speed limits. So Euro makers typically soften US suspension packages for ower lower speeds and poor quality roads.

It is possible the "regular" z18xer Euro suspension was sold in the US as "sport" and a softer package was made for other US Astras. Not easy to figure that out.

That Sporty Bilstein B8 I referenced might be a slightly more sporty option than US OEM based on generic descriptions at Bilstein.
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Before replacing the front struts, make sure to test them! In most cases you only need to replace the rear ones (not difficult at all). I replaced the rear ones at 90K. It made a huge difference. At 140K miles my Astra is running like always does: New.

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Blew a strut this week, of course 2 weeks after I just finish getting my suspension all put back together. Anway, buying bilsteins after deciding to wait for my delcos to bust (ha). I emailed partsoutlet24 after I had some concerns about being able to ship the struts to begin with. But I started doing my own research and found a website called demon-tweaks. Based in the Uk, and they have the struts in stock and available to ship. Final cost is $290.13 SHIPPED. I'm going to do some more research before I decide to pay, but I'm hoping this is the real deal. If so it makes finding the suspension components a lot easier than having to deal with German translations
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Hey freedom,

I'm out the door to see my doctor in a couple minutes, or this would be longer.

Just know the Bilsteins are 30-40% to a track car ride and when you first transition, you might just think you ruined your car.....My wife rarely rides with me any more. Be sure you really want this. Look at my earlier posts about the two types of "orange" Koni options. Will post that link later tonight.
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Hey freedom,

I'm out the door to see my doctor in a couple minutes, or this would be longer.

Just know the Bilsteins are 30-40% to a track car ride and when you first transition, you might just think you ruined your car.....My wife rarely rides with me any more. Be sure you really want this. Look at my earlier posts about the two types of "orange" Koni options. Will post that link later tonight.
Well considering how much I have spent on springs already, I dont want to go back to stock ride height. And if i keep putting delco struts on, I fear they will keep puking its guts out. I read that b8 are a hair shorter than b6. But since I'm on sportline eibach, I would need something shorter to keep the struts from blowing. Doesnt help that my roads here in East central Indiana are horrible. My fiancee has a cruze on b6 and eibach springs and the ride is honestly pretty good.
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Being that they could be a bit shorter, will I need different stabilizer links? Or sway bar links whatever they are called. I'm not certain on the length of stuts themselves.

My car already rides pretty "stiff" to begin with. Delco struts and Eibach springs are definitely a lot more stiff over stock suspension components. But I'm am only 23. So the stiffness doesn't really phase me much.
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Bumping this again.

I still haven't bought the Bilstein struts because I'm still not sure about the Demon-Tweaks website. I talked to part24outlet and was quoted $200 for shipping alone.

Does anyone know if I need shorter stabilizer to be compatible with the b8 struts? Or will the original ones work? I just replaced the links within 6 months ago and I don't want to spend the extra money if I don't have it. I'm already going to be out $300 for struts, shipping, + install, + alignment when I'm done. Looking at about $500 all said and done.
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What do you mean by "short stabilizer"? Springs?

Some sites I was looking at for Koni packages have folded since I shared information about them. It looks like only those handling Eibach/Bilstein are stable. The links I have from my emails shows the places I made purchases from are still around. I agree on the handling fee from part24outlet being high. I paid $170 apiece for front struts through them, but that was $120 less than from the UK. At the time, the Polish site could not say when the parts would be available and I had a couple friends enlisted to help me, so I ordered up.

Springs and/or spring and strut/shock packages can now be gotten from these guys, price includes shipping. I purchased springs only from them, one week from Poland to California. Says things are on hand. From my order history:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Eibach-Spor...72.m2749.l2649

I purchased rear shocks from Summit Racing. You may or may not save buying the front struts and rear shocks from separate sites. Review is mine:

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/b...114684/reviews

I'd work on sourcing from the Polish site, making sure you are happy you have matched our Astra H chassis to one in Europe: Series Astra H (Mk5) A04, Model Range (chassis) L48, with the 1.8L benzin/petrol 103KW/140HP engine. They were not offering Sportline kits (springs, struts/shocks) when I was marketing.

Match the chassis. Search their EBay site for a kit. If you see one showing a 30mm drop in front and back, those are B6's. A 50 mm drop, B8's. The website says that the B8 package will only gat you a 30 mm drop in back, but I found it near the same as the front when installed.

I believe this is the B8 kit and what I'd order now if I was still looking, but be careful and really satisfy yourself its the right one.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Eibach-B12-...item2ae5167d9c

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