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Old 12-06-2002, 01:29 PM   #1
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How does the paint job on a Saturn hold up in a standard brush car-wash? I have a black VUE, and I would like to keep it as microscratch-free for as long as possible. Should I make an effort to find a brushless car wash?

And if so - anybody know of a good one in the South Hills of Pittsburgh? (preferably one I can sit in the car during the wash, cuz I'm still a kid at heart)

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Old 12-06-2002, 01:37 PM   #2
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black will show scratches before any other color... I would avoid a brush wash if I were you.

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Old 12-06-2002, 01:51 PM   #3
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when i got my satty repainted this summer (factory color, but not by a dealer) the guy strongly advised me against automatic car washes and even the high-pressure DIY washes...said it's really not good for the paint on any car

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Old 12-06-2002, 02:44 PM   #4
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Hand washing/drying causes scratches too so you really can't win. The only way not to scratch your paint is not to wash it at all. FWIW, I hand wash my cars sometimes and go through touchless most of the rest of the time, rarely a soft-cloth wash.

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Old 12-06-2002, 03:02 PM   #5
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I am worried about my Medium green VUE and scratches. The first car wash was using the rinse only from the auto wash. I did not want to go through the autowash. Sometime soon I will need to handwash my VUE!!!

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Old 12-06-2002, 03:46 PM   #6
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I've never done anything but hand wash. Washing by hand won't scratch the paint if you're careful, but those brushes sure will.

Automatic washes... *twitch*

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Old 12-06-2002, 03:48 PM   #7
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The best one I found was the one pass Century III Mall across from Boston Market on Route 51. I guess a white car shows scratches just as well as a black one. It has done the best job for me in the area, but it may be a longer drive then what you are looking for. They are called Body Beautiful Car Wash and it is 100% soft cloth. Maybe there is something similar in your area.

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Old 12-06-2002, 04:02 PM   #8
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I hand wash when I can. I sent away for that silicon blade car dryer, and I have to say it works great! Won't scratch the paint, and drys so fast it's not funny.

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Old 12-06-2002, 07:35 PM   #9
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The best one I found was the one pass Century III Mall across from Boston Market on Route 51. I guess a white car shows scratches just as well as a black one. It has done the best job for me in the area, but it may be a longer drive then what you are looking for. They are called Body Beautiful Car Wash and it is 100% soft cloth. Maybe there is something similar in your area.
Thanks for the info - That may not be to bad a drive for me. I actually bought my VUE at Saturn of Pleasant Hills, which is right up the street from there. I'll add it to my list of places to check. Here's another one I found:

http://www.mrmagiccarwash.com

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Old 12-06-2002, 08:00 PM   #10
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I have always hand washed in the warm weather and gone thru a touchless car wash when the cold months arrive. I had my gold sl2 for 5 years and the paint was good as new. I'm doing the same for my 03 VUE.

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Old 12-06-2002, 09:07 PM   #11
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I usually use the Power self wash, and the little brush that they have there for the tough spots. I try to avoid the nasty cloths etc.

I have been using the squeege dryer I got at Wal-Mart. It seems to work very well, but I am always paranoid about the thing picking up dirt and scratching the paint.

I think I have the closest color to black...the Dark Green L300.

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Old 12-07-2002, 10:48 PM   #12
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I've always heard that the best way is to rinse first with a light spray, then wash by hand, using a sponge that you rinse out very, very often, and to dry with a real chamois, also rinsed often.

During the winter, I'll go to a do-it-yourself. It's very hard finding true touchless washes. Either they are really brushless (using cloth instead), or they wind up having employees doing a final dry with towels. I used to go to a gas station that had a funky automatic (the car stays still, while the mechanism makes several passes back and forth over the car), but they took that down for a more conventional cloth automatic.

With my ten year old SL1, I tend to stick to the dealer washes only, but I expect that to change when the new VUE arrives.

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Old 12-08-2002, 11:35 AM   #13
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Those soft cloth washers - they can snag big rust chunks of an old car, then spend the rest of the day dragging it across every car. I don't use em.

WKDave3 said, "the guy strongly advised me against...the high-pressure DIY washes...said it's really not good for the paint on any car". The high pressure wand is only bad for paint if used too close to the surface - it can actually strip paint - so you have to be very careful using them.

I live in a high salt-use area, so it MUST be washed off, so you've got to wash your car in the winter, you can't do a wash in your driveway when it's freezing, you can't use auto-brush or auto soft-cloth, so IMO the high pressure wand is the best solution. And you can get in underneath and in the wheel wells where it counts.

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Old 12-08-2002, 12:45 PM   #14
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Thanks for the info - That may not be to bad a drive for me. I actually bought my VUE at Saturn of Pleasant Hills, which is right up the street from there. I'll add it to my list of places to check. Here's another one I found:

http://www.mrmagiccarwash.com
If you buy a 2003 entertainment book it gives you savings on both of these car wash places. You can save $8.00 off of their best car wash. With twelve coupons per car wash you can potentially save $192.00 dollars! The entertainment book only costs $20.00 dollars and you can use it all over the Pittsburgh area. Every major city has these. Most restaurants and movie theatres have some type of coupon in there for you to use. Unless you don't like using coupons that is.

http://www.entertainment.com

It's $30.00 if you buy it off the website.

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Old 12-08-2002, 11:21 PM   #15
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For the last two years I bought one of those books. Not from that particular site, but similar. I always end up having used about $10.00 worth and forgetting about it before it expires and runs out requiring me to buy another book.

I guess I if I had a life, I'd use it. I'm not getting one for 03.

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Old 12-08-2002, 11:32 PM   #16
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My car has been through a good many car washes, been hand washed plenty of times, been down a gravel road 5 times a day, and even been off roading. I must say that this car is very scratch resistant. After 10 years of complete neglect for the paint, it still looks good, except for a small spot on the back bumper.

So, if you take better care of your car than I do, you probably don't have much to worry about.

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Old 12-08-2002, 11:56 PM   #17
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Here is how it looks after 10 years of neglect:


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Old 12-09-2002, 11:52 AM   #18
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if your worried about the micro scratches and paint swirls in your car my advice would be to not drive it or wash it Its gonna happen no matter waht you do, Black shows every little blemish you could think of, White on the other hand hides dents and scratches very well! you can use a cleaner wax after washing or a poliching compound to help with the swirls but even then, its not gonna eliminate them!
stay away from drive through car washes, the brushes drag dirt and debris all over your car and the touchless ones just rise you down and when you dry it just rubs the dirt that wasnt completely rinsed away(if using a chamois) And if you dont dry it witha chamois it just air drys and you can see all the dirt and dust that it didnt wash away! hand washing is the best and you can never avoid the swirlys

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at saturn we wash all cars with a soft bristled broom, seal it and dry it off with a squi-gee and then dry it off with a shamy

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I got a Boston area one from Waldenbooks for $25 (though the prices do vary depending on city). Better yet, if you can find a charity that sells them, you may prefer that.

However, I returned it because theater coupons that were good at the box office are gone, replaced by coupons that need to be mailed in to exchange for theater tickets. That ruined the value for me.

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