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Old 11-07-2005, 04:24 AM   #1
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Default How to identify the specific models: SL, SL1, SL2??

I have searched and couldn't find a thread on this, but I would guess there is one somewhere. I am asking since I am in the market for one of these cars and have gotten a bit confused as to how to differentiate a SL from a SL1 from a SL2.

I am also asking because it seems strange that they put no badges on the cars the way Honda will put DX, LX, EX so we know the trim levels. And sometimes owners and dealers really don't know what model they are selling! They will call it an SL when it is really an SL2, etc.

So far, I can see that the SL2 has the DOHC engine, painted bumpers, a big reflector across the trunk, and usually alloy wheels, while the SL1 has the SOHC engine, dark gray bumpers and wheel covers. But what about that base SL model? And are there any other differences?

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Old 11-07-2005, 07:12 AM   #2
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Default Re: How to identify the specific models: SL, SL1, SL2??

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....while the SL1 has the SOHC engine, dark gray bumpers and wheel covers. But what about that base SL model? And are there any other differences?

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You're correct on your SL2 vs SL1. For the SL, take an SL1 and remove the power steering, passenger side mirror and power windows and locks. It's possible that a base model SL only comes with a manual transmission.

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Old 11-07-2005, 09:40 PM   #3
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Default Re: How to identify the specific models: SL, SL1, SL2??

sl has optional power steering and optional air conditioning, auto trans not an option. black bumpers standard.
sl1 supposedly came with nicer interior, but my 96sl has cloth on doors and more comfortable seats than wife's 00 sl1.

mine came with pass. mirror, a/c (not working), manual trans, and am/fm/cass.

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Old 11-07-2005, 09:45 PM   #4
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get the vehicle identification number (VIN) and have a Saturn retailer look up the model information for you.

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Old 11-07-2005, 11:21 PM   #5
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my friend has a manual sl2, same year as mine, without alloy rims, power locks or fogs. before his i didnt know there was a lot difference in trim you could get at the sl2 level, i knew leather and roof was an option, but power locks?? it also didnt have a tape deck, just a tuner. i gave my tape deck to him and got an aftermarket mp3cd player. i would assume his speakers aren't the premium ones either...mine were, but the two in the back were blown so i took them all out.

i would never buy a s-series if it wasn't a "2". i know the sohc gets better mileage, but i just dont think i would be able to stand the interior or even the non-matching bumpers.

apparently there's also a "homecoming edition" of sorts? whats the dif between the loaded up sl2 like mine (leather, sun, fogs, power everything) and the homecoming edition?

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Old 11-08-2005, 12:30 AM   #6
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The easiest way to distinguish between these models is to open the hood.

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Old 11-08-2005, 12:31 PM   #7
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get the vehicle identification number (VIN) and have a Saturn retailer look up the model information for you.
Or save yourself a trip and look here:

http://www.differentracing.com/tech_...in_decode.html

The fifth digit tells exactly what trim level it is.

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Old 11-08-2005, 01:47 PM   #8
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Default Re: How to identify the specific models: SL, SL1, SL2??

The SL2 has an MP3 transmission that is built for the DOHC engine power band and the SL1 has an MP2 transmission that has the gear ratios set up for the SOHC power band. The DOHC redline is 6500 and the SOHC redline is 5500. The DOHC is rated at 124 HP and the SOHC is rated at 100 HP. Early SOHC (1st gen) were TBI and rated at 85 HP. The SL2 bumpers have holes for foglamps. ummm thats all I can think of...

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Old 11-10-2005, 09:22 PM   #9
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I am also asking because it seems strange that they put no badges on the cars the way Honda will put DX, LX, EX so we know the trim levels.
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badges? we don't need no stinking badges!

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Old 11-11-2005, 06:35 AM   #10
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Default Re: How to identify the specific models: SL, SL1, SL2??

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badges? we don't need no stinking badges!
Yes, we do need badges. I can't tell what I'm driving.

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Old 11-11-2005, 09:58 AM   #11
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Yes, we do need badges. I can't tell what I'm driving.
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Old 12-09-2005, 09:14 PM   #12
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Poor rookie. Learn a little about your car to know what you're driving. It's more interesting having to do homework on the car anyway. That way at least you know what you have under the hood. I ran into a guy the other day who was driving a 98 Jeep Wrangler. (I work for a Chrysler dealership) I asked him what engine he had in order to look him up a part, and he told me, "I think it's a v-8." I wanted to smack him for being an idiot, and not knowing about his own vehicle. Moral is, learn about your own car.

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Old 12-10-2005, 12:55 AM   #13
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Poor rookie. Learn a little about your car to know what you're driving. It's more interesting having to do homework on the car anyway. That way at least you know what you have under the hood. I ran into a guy the other day who was driving a 98 Jeep Wrangler. (I work for a Chrysler dealership) I asked him what engine he had in order to look him up a part, and he told me, "I think it's a v-8." I wanted to smack him for being an idiot, and not knowing about his own vehicle. Moral is, learn about your own car.
wranglers, are they not a V6-V8 applicable jeep? (at least i thought they were, but i could be wrong)

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Old 12-10-2005, 01:19 AM   #14
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wranglers, are they not a V6-V8 applicable jeep? (at least i thought they were, but i could be wrong)

Nope. The newer Wranglers at least are 4 and 6 cylinders. But there are kits to drop in a 350.

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Old 12-10-2005, 04:20 AM   #15
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wranglers, are they not a V6-V8 applicable jeep? (at least i thought they were, but i could be wrong)
Well, actually, it IS possible to cram a 3.9L v-6, a 5.2L v-8 (318), or a 5.9L v-8 (360) into some of the mid 90's jeep wranglers, but they come standard with either a 2.5L inline 4, or a 4.0L straight six. V-6 and V-8 mods to these are not very common, but I have seen it done. now, some of the bigger jeeps, yes, come with v-6 and 8's. but those are new models, carrying 3.7L v-6's (jeep liberty engines), 4.7L v-8's (1/2 ton truck engines), and 5.7L Hemi's. And the SRT-8 Jeep Grand Cherokee is toting a 6.1L 425 hp Hemi. Good question man.

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You can always jot down the VIN and look it up on Carfax or Kelley Blue Book. That the insurance company doesn't have it right is unconscionable; they should have ALL that information dead-bang right, based on the VIN. Ditto with dealers, but yeah, I once saw an SW1 being sold as an "SC2 Wagon"
Carfax info is very inaccurate from my experiences - made stuff up, and missed a lot too. Insurance companies are often wrong, at least mine is. I had two Monte SS's at the same time. The 8th digit engine code denotes them as an SS - yet they had one titled as an SS and one not. I questioned them and she said that is what thier books state, and suggested leaving it since its somewhat cheaper. Normally I would argue, but if something ever happened it is their fault since the VIN itself tells them its an SS. I have agreed value insurance for $200/yr now anyways.


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Poor rookie. Learn a little about your car to know what you're driving. It's more interesting having to do homework on the car anyway. That way at least you know what you have under the hood. I ran into a guy the other day who was driving a 98 Jeep Wrangler. (I work for a Chrysler dealership) I asked him what engine he had in order to look him up a part, and he told me, "I think it's a v-8." I wanted to smack him for being an idiot, and not knowing about his own vehicle. Moral is, learn about your own car.
This rookie did learn about them right off the bat My point is if you are just shopping around for them, it makes it difficult to learn by observation/advertisements since nobody knows what they are Nothing makes sense if everyone is calling it the wrong thing.

For example go look on autotrader - to find all SC's, you will have to look at that year range of saturns - if you search specifically for SC you will miss a lot of them and you will get a lot of SL/SW's too... All I knew is I wanted a 91-96 2-door because thats the body style I like so that is all I looked at, regardless of what the seller called it.

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This rookie did learn about them right off the bat My point is if you are just shopping around for them, it makes it difficult to learn by observation/advertisements since nobody knows what they are Nothing makes sense if everyone is calling it the wrong thing.

For example go look on autotrader - to find all SC's, you will have to look at that year range of saturns - if you search specifically for SC you will miss a lot of them and you will get a lot of SL/SW's too... All I knew is I wanted a 91-96 2-door because thats the body style I like so that is all I looked at, regardless of what the seller called it.
Yeah, I understand that, but if you know what you're looking at, you have the advantage, and the ability to laugh at the idiots who try to sell their cars mislabeled. I've even seen things as extreme as marketing a 95 SW1 automatic as a 99 SC2 manual. Some people are stupid, it's a fact. I wasn't trying to diss anyone, by the way. I hope I didn't come across as a prick or anything.

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I have searched and couldn't find a thread on this, but I would guess there is one somewhere.
And you would guess correctly. These are just some of the numerous threads found by using the Search function with "difference SL1 SL2" as the keyword parameters.

http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48491

http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48808

http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54109

http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43593

http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35304

http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9926

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