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Old 07-13-2018, 08:06 PM   #1
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Default KYB Excel-G 234056

Getting ready to install new rear struts.
There are cosmetic differences between to two, but the important dimensions are identical.
One strut is Made in Japan, the other is Made in U.S.A.

Question: Are the internal components the same or might one have a different damping ratio than the other?
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Old 07-13-2018, 08:19 PM   #2
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Should be identical performance wise.

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Old 07-14-2018, 11:43 AM   #3
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Default Re: KYB Excel-G 234056

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Should be identical performance wise.
I hadda ask. Thanks

Meanwhile, I found out where the rest of the bolt was that went with the snapped-off head I found behind my car in a parking lot.
I usually under-torque big suspension bolts. ...so, fatigue is a real thing Time to start using new suspension bolts on a 20 y.o. car so that other drivers may tailgate me safely without catastrophic failure cramping their style
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Old 07-14-2018, 12:01 PM   #4
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The corrosion buildup exerts incredible stress on those fasteners. This is why ever hot riveted bridges fall down.

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Old 07-14-2018, 01:10 PM   #5
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Default Re: KYB Excel-G 234056

In this case, the rust on the bolt is from sitting in my scrap pile for two months
I’d forgotten....it turns out that the broken bolt shown in the picture is an “undersized” bolt from a camber bolt set that includes a plastic spacer. I did not use the spacer and had a full-sized O.E. bolt in the bottom hole. All that happened was the top of the knuckle connection banged against the strut tube and camber went far in the minus (-) direction. The shear force on the bolt was not going to let it fall out.
No more undersized suspension bolts for me

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Old 07-14-2018, 06:52 PM   #6
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Photos of the eccentrically-ground fastener:

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The corrosion buildup exerts incredible stress on those fasteners. This is why ever hot riveted bridges fall down.
Random thought:
Imagine some man working as a steel detailer 60 years ago working on the intricacies of gusset and fish plates for a bridge design. He was not worried about people in the future dumping salt all over his bridge. “Let them build their own bridge.” The distant past did not build infrastructure for us.

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Those camber bolts are not rated for the OEM specified torque. JUNK. Any shop that whines they can not do an alignment without them is by deffinitio0n incompetent, find another shop.

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Old 07-16-2018, 02:06 PM   #9
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Default Re: KYB Excel-G 234056

You probably know this but, did you change the front struts already? I did my rear struts first (KYB) and had a rather exciting oversteer until I change my front struts.

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Old 07-16-2018, 02:38 PM   #10
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You probably know this but, did you change the front struts already? I did my rear struts first (KYB) and had a rather exciting oversteer until I change my front struts.
That is a good point!
Answer is, yes, I plan to replace the front struts before I drive the car.
I’m going to replace the driver’s side axle while the strut is out of the way. It’s been clicking for a long time- Like, a year.
While I’m under there, I will power-wash, scrape and POR15 paint any body seams showing any rust.

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Old 07-18-2018, 11:42 AM   #11
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Default Re: KYB Excel-G 234056

For the record, a correction. - I did use the plastic spacer. Here is the bolt from the top hole on the driver’s side.
Condition while “in use”:
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No rust. Installed in 2012.

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