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Old 03-25-2009, 12:04 PM   #1
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Default No timing chain replacement in library??

Hey guys, going to order the timing chain kit from rock auto. I am also going to order a valve cover gasket and timing cover gasket (if there is one??) I looked through the library for how-to on the replacement and torque specs but couldnt find any. Can you guys show me a link on how to do it? PICS?? advice?? I got the tools but never did this before on a saturn.



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Doesn't the Haynes manual have a general guide to how to do it?
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Old 03-25-2009, 10:46 PM   #3
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I dont know oldnuc, I have read so many complaints about that book (esp about the wrong torque numbers) if it is good i will buy one!
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Default Re: No timing chain replacement in library??

Chilton's does have a writeup on it with torque specs. Along with their crappy photos.

Maybe you'll snap a few photos when you do yours [hint]
I have yet to see the info posted here, altho someone did post recently about having done it.

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I dont know oldnuc, I have read so many complaints about that book (esp about the wrong torque numbers) if it is good i will buy one!
The other option is an ALLData subscription, its about the same price and you can print off what you need. Haynes does have problems with glaring errors and information gaps and ALLData does not.
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Default Re: No timing chain replacement in library??

Wolfman has a torque spec list in the how-to library. Find it and use that. Second, replace the tensioner and all guides when doing the timing chain. I recommend using OEM. But others have gotten away with using the "fleabay" kits. When dealing with an interference motor, the last thing I would do is go cheap on something so important.
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Default Re: No timing chain replacement in library??

Hey guys, I went on Autozone.com and became a member to see the procedure for my timing chain, unf it showed a diagram of the ion motor, even though s-series is highlighted. Oldnuc, if you can give some tips i appreciate it. I have a powerful dewalt power drill that will take the crank pulley off. I just dont know about the timing marks and how to setup the new tensioner. if there are photos or a site i can log onto (preferably free) please let me know. Mel, thanks for the heads up, I will fix that.
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Default Re: No timing chain replacement in library??

I never understood the reason for some car manufacturers with interference engine designs using a timing belt (not saturn at least)

Are saturn engines interference designs and I wonder if its possible to pick up a beefier timing chain?
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I never understood the reason for some car manufacturers with interference engine designs using a timing belt (not saturn at least)
easier to engineer, cheaper to make, reliable if you change the belts on schedule. And if you don't maintain the car and the belt goes, you'll be tempted to buy another car rather than fix the old one
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Are saturn engines interference designs and I wonder if its possible to pick up a beefier timing chain?
S-series are interference, don't know about the other saturns, but I would imagine nearly all modern engines are interference
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Hey guys, I went on Autozone.com and became a member to see the procedure for my timing chain, unf it showed a diagram of the ion motor, even though s-series is highlighted. Oldnuc, if you can give some tips i appreciate it. I have a powerful dewalt power drill that will take the crank pulley off. I just dont know about the timing marks and how to setup the new tensioner. if there are photos or a site i can log onto (preferably free) please let me know. Mel, thanks for the heads up, I will fix that.
Pay attention which holes the guide bolts come out of. Thee are 2 holes on one side and you can put it back together wrong. When installing the chain line up the marks to match this drawing. Turn the crank to the 3:00 position before removing the old chain and sprocket. The crank keyway is the mark and the block split is the 3:00 point. Set cam and new sprocket to alignment with the pin. Turn crank counterclockwise to TDC and put chain on.



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Hey guys, I went on Autozone.com and became a member to see the procedure for my timing chain, unf it showed a diagram of the ion motor, even though s-series is highlighted.
I noticed they went to a new system at AZ. The one thing I looked at also had a diagram that was just a general cooling system and if you weren't paying attention to the fact that it was NOT a saturn it might be confusing. So I am not sure how good their info is. For something so important and complicated like a timing chain (i am guessing), the AllData is probably worth it (altho I have not used it yet).

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I'm not sure that I like the new system at Autozone, it seems as though there are more mistakes with diagrams. I thought the old system was a little better.
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oldnuc, you are a good man. Thank you so much!
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