SaturnFans.com
saturnfans.com - classifieds - forums - webmail


Go Back   SaturnFans.com Forums > Models > Saturn S-Series > S-Series Tech

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-07-2010, 03:23 PM   #1
oreoucky
Member
oreoucky is on a distinguished road
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: West Palm Beach,FL
Posts: 147

2002 SL1
Default Top Motor Mount Question

Good afternoon,

I have a 2002 Saturn SL1 with approx. 95K. I have never changed any mounts before. I have recently been hearing some rattling in my dash. I hear it on the drivers side.

From the research I did and watching RichPin's video I think it might be my Top Motor Mount. I am able to pass a pen right through the bracket and the rubber piece underneath.

If it needs replacement, which I think it does is it still safe to drive with until I get a chance to fix it? I am a novice but after watching his video I think I should be able to do this project myself.

Any tips on which part to get?

Thanks,

Justin
oreoucky is offline   Reply With Quote
SaturnFans.com Sponsored Links
Old 11-07-2010, 03:50 PM   #2
OldNuc
Super Member
OldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond repute
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Far Southwestern Iowa
Posts: 66,693
 

1998 SC2
Default Re: Top Motor Mount Question

Get an OEM mount. Yes, it still should be drivable while waiting for delivery.

http://www.gmpartsgiant.com/parts/gm...-21012185.html

Lowest price part no 21012185
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/
OldNuc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2010, 04:04 PM   #3
fetchitfido
Super Member
fetchitfido has a brilliant futurefetchitfido has a brilliant futurefetchitfido has a brilliant futurefetchitfido has a brilliant futurefetchitfido has a brilliant futurefetchitfido has a brilliant futurefetchitfido has a brilliant futurefetchitfido has a brilliant futurefetchitfido has a brilliant futurefetchitfido has a brilliant futurefetchitfido has a brilliant future
 
fetchitfido's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 14,786
 

2001 SC2
Default Re: Top Motor Mount Question

If you can find it get the OEM style mount. The only one rockauto and most other places seem to sell isn't worth the $20 they cost. I only got the cheap one because the only GM dealer in my area failed at getting the right one.
...
The proper way to fix a S-Series automatic is to replace it with a 5spd O:)
fetchitfido is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2010, 04:10 PM   #4
OldNuc
Super Member
OldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond repute
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Far Southwestern Iowa
Posts: 66,693
 

1998 SC2
Default Re: Top Motor Mount Question

The OEM lookalike at the parts store are not of the same quality as the OEM.
OldNuc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2010, 05:00 PM   #5
oreoucky
Member
oreoucky is on a distinguished road
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: West Palm Beach,FL
Posts: 147

2002 SL1
Default Re: Top Motor Mount Question

OldNuc,

Thanks. Good to know it is safe to drive on. It is something that I should replace though, correct? I am pretty sure it is bad cause I can slide a whole pen through the gap between the bracket and rubber stopper.

You recommend to only get the OEM correct? Can I get it from the dealer or is the website you provided good as well? I assume it will be more at the dealer.

Is this an easy task for a novice? It doesnt look to difficult in the video. I need to do my tranny fluid/filter so I figured I could do this at the same time.

Justin
oreoucky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2010, 10:17 PM   #6
OldNuc
Super Member
OldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond repute
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Far Southwestern Iowa
Posts: 66,693
 

1998 SC2
Default Re: Top Motor Mount Question

You can replace it. Dealer will get into your pocket for 80.00+ so order it. the only hard part is finding a board and jack to hold up the engine while changing it. There are several sets of detailed instructions on how to properly install that mount. You have to torque it to the cover evenly. Do not just torque one stud to max and then the next one. The mount has to sit all the way down on the studs before torquing. The jack is supporting the engine.

You need a decent socket set and a torque wrench.
OldNuc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2010, 11:10 PM   #7
southaeastpunk
Member
southaeastpunk is on a distinguished road
 
southaeastpunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Spring Hill, TN
Posts: 115

2002 SC2
2008 SKY Red Line
Default Re: Top Motor Mount Question

i just replaced mine the other day.
it's one of the easier repairs i've done thus far. and you'll be really surprised how smooth the car runs after you change the mount.
i used one of the cheapo "frown face" motor mounts from autozone because GM laid me off and i'm broke.
I figured since the mount comes with the lifetime warranty, i don't mind swapping it out every 2 years and it'll be free, it's that simple!
of course i use to put them in VUE's 40 hours a week for 3 months at the plant.
still should be pretty easy for the average joe it's pretty straightforward.

i didn't even put my car on jack stands, i just got an old bed sheet folded up and used it for a cushion between the oil pan and the floor jack.
just do exactly as rich says and you'll do fine.
southaeastpunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2010, 12:30 PM   #8
lost_wreckage
Member
lost_wreckage is on a distinguished road
 
lost_wreckage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: CA
Posts: 233
 

1996 SL1
2002 SC2
Default Re: Top Motor Mount Question

I will attest to the fact that trying to save money on a cheap mount will only give you heartache. You might want to replace all the mounts while you are at it because I have found that replacing one mount only transfers vibration to the others. The cheap frowny style mount improved my situation for about 2 weeks and the vibration was back and the mount is now failing to give 2mm clearance in the frown part of the mount. New upper mount needed after less than 2 months.
lost_wreckage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2010, 01:58 PM   #9
oreoucky
Member
oreoucky is on a distinguished road
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: West Palm Beach,FL
Posts: 147

2002 SL1
Default Re: Top Motor Mount Question

Thanks guys for all the help. I went ahead and ordered the OEM part early this AM. Once it arrives Ill try to replaement. Ill keep you posted on any questions or inquiries.

Thanks,

Justin
oreoucky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2010, 08:21 PM   #10
southaeastpunk
Member
southaeastpunk is on a distinguished road
 
southaeastpunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Spring Hill, TN
Posts: 115

2002 SC2
2008 SKY Red Line
Default Re: Top Motor Mount Question

i've already put 1000 miles on the the new crappy "frown" upper motor mount, so far it's holding up well.
we'll see how much longer it lasts though.
southaeastpunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2010, 05:37 PM   #11
fmctaurus
Member
fmctaurus is a jewel in the roughfmctaurus is a jewel in the roughfmctaurus is a jewel in the roughfmctaurus is a jewel in the rough
 
fmctaurus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Bronx, NY
Posts: 304

1997 SL1
Default Re: Top Motor Mount Question

Purchased non-frowny mount from Pepboys for $35. Part Number is 2827.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_1841.JPG (62.1 KB, 64 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_1842.JPG (63.4 KB, 74 views)
fmctaurus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2010, 06:05 PM   #12
ShawnV
Master Member
ShawnV is a jewel in the roughShawnV is a jewel in the roughShawnV is a jewel in the roughShawnV is a jewel in the rough
 
ShawnV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Greensboro, NC
Posts: 2,680
 

2000 SW2
Default Re: Top Motor Mount Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by fmctaurus View Post
Purchased non-frowny mount from Pepboys for $35. Part Number is 2827.
That looks good, but it only ha a 90 day warranty?!?
ShawnV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2010, 06:52 PM   #13
fmctaurus
Member
fmctaurus is a jewel in the roughfmctaurus is a jewel in the roughfmctaurus is a jewel in the roughfmctaurus is a jewel in the rough
 
fmctaurus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Bronx, NY
Posts: 304

1997 SL1
Default Re: Top Motor Mount Question

Quote:
That looks good, but it only ha a 90 day warranty?!?
I know, but I needed one, it's not frowny, and the price was okay.
fmctaurus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2010, 10:55 PM   #14
oreoucky
Member
oreoucky is on a distinguished road
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: West Palm Beach,FL
Posts: 147

2002 SL1
Default Re: Top Motor Mount Question

hmmm I order the OEM non-frowny one as posted by OldNuc above, but waiting for it to be shipped.

Do you think the one you purchased at PepBoys will be just as good? It is quite a bit cheaper.

Justin
oreoucky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2010, 12:03 AM   #15
alordofchaos
Super Member
alordofchaos has much to be proud ofalordofchaos has much to be proud ofalordofchaos has much to be proud ofalordofchaos has much to be proud ofalordofchaos has much to be proud ofalordofchaos has much to be proud ofalordofchaos has much to be proud ofalordofchaos has much to be proud ofalordofchaos has much to be proud ofalordofchaos has much to be proud of
 
alordofchaos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Central MI
Posts: 13,167
 

2002 SC2
1998 SL2
Default Re: Top Motor Mount Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by fmctaurus View Post
Purchased non-frowny mount from Pepboys for $35. Part Number is 2827.
That's the same mount I got, a year and a half (18k miles) ago. It's held up well so far. It's hit and miss at pepboys, though. Another saturnfans member went to the exact same store I did a few months later and all they had were frowny mounts - carried under the same stock number.
...
I'm not worthy to grovel in the shadow of Signmaster's wisdom

11/2016 red 2002 5 spd SC2 151k DD
12/2008 eBay silver 1998 SL2 5 spd 102k, now 201k+ miles
alordofchaos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2010, 12:05 AM   #16
southaeastpunk
Member
southaeastpunk is on a distinguished road
 
southaeastpunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Spring Hill, TN
Posts: 115

2002 SC2
2008 SKY Red Line
Default Re: Top Motor Mount Question

i read somewhere down the line on the forum that it may look OEM but the rubber may actually softer compound making it prone to failing sooner.
i swear, these aftermarket guys need to get it right.
southaeastpunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2010, 12:09 AM   #17
OldNuc
Super Member
OldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond reputeOldNuc has a reputation beyond repute
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Far Southwestern Iowa
Posts: 66,693
 

1998 SC2
Default Re: Top Motor Mount Question

The compound of the aftermarket mounts is questionable at best.
OldNuc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2010, 04:08 PM   #18
oreoucky
Member
oreoucky is on a distinguished road
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: West Palm Beach,FL
Posts: 147

2002 SL1
Default Re: Top Motor Mount Question

Was a very simply process. Big thanks to Richpin's video and all of your guys tips. The car is so much quieter. Was impressed. Feels a little smoother too.

Justin
oreoucky is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
motor mount question frogman S-Series Tech 13 03-09-2010 02:43 AM
95 SL1 Motor mount question lentinman S-Series Tech 6 11-08-2007 12:49 PM
Motor mount question reelon S-Series Tech 13 12-10-2006 01:42 PM
Motor Mount Question SweetSL2 S-Series Tech 4 01-10-2005 10:08 PM
Motor Mount Question Aldiaz2331 S-Series Tech 2 12-13-2003 12:36 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:35 PM.

Advanced Forum Search | Advanced Photo Search


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
SaturnFans.com. The Saturn Enthusiasts Site.