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Old 02-05-2008, 03:51 PM   #1
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I have seen other sites discuss the future of Saturn vehicles like the Saturn Future Lineup, but how about this as the Saturn Switch?

Concept Denali XT

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Old 02-07-2008, 05:16 PM   #2
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I have seen other sites discuss the future of Saturn vehicles like the Saturn Future Lineup, but how about this as the Saturn Switch?

Concept Denali XT

Thoughts?
The Denali design will probably be simlar to the switch cause saturn is going that way of sharing platforms. I can't wait to see it. I think it will be a huge sucess cause people love Saturns and people don't wanna leave the company they want gain in the company to stay with them. Also Saturns' competiton in this segment is the Honda Ridgeline. Lots of Honda owners don't care for Honda's truck so maybe alot of Honda, and Toyota owners will come to Saturn for the Switch like they did the Aura, Outlook & Sky.

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Old 02-08-2008, 10:16 PM   #3
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2012 Outlook Trim Levels
Base: XE
Mid-level: GL
Up-level: XR

Outlook Introduction
As Saturnís large family crossover, the Outlook continues that mission in itĎs next generation. Staying at itís current size, Outlook cuts itís base price on the XE model to $26,900, distancing itself from the Acadia and Enclave platform mates and helping it to reach a larger buying base. Right now, itís a bit too expensive to reach some of the families it needs to get to be a sucess. However, the current formula works; RIAís Outlook is an evolutionary step. XE is powered by a 3.6L 250HP HF V-6, and new to the lineup is an GL hybrid model with the Dual Mode hybrid system. XR, the top end luxury model, get itís power from a 3.0L 300HP HF V-6. Basing on a 5 year cycle, expect the next generation production Outlook to arrive as a 2012 model.

Outlook Specifications Sheet
Vehicle Type: Large 4-Door 7 Passenger CUV
Size Comparison: 2007 Outlook
Competitors: Honda Pilot
Base Platform: Lambda
Drive Wheels: FWD, AWD
Engines:
XE: 3.6L 250HP HF V6
GL: 2.8L 215HP HF V6 w/Dual Mode Hybrid System
XR: 3.6L 300HP HF V6
Transmissions: 6 speed Automatic



2012 Switch Trim Levels
Base: XE
Mid-level: GL
Up-level: XR

Switch Introduction
Some have mentioned the possibility of Saturn becoming the second or perhaps the largest GM brand sometime in the future. That day is far in the future, but it can certainly never be in the realm of possibility without a wider and more diverse product lineup. Part of that larger, more diverse lineup is the 2010 Saturn Switch, a GM entry into the Sport Utility Truck (SUT) market and the first non-body on frame GM "truck". As this segment class looks more appealing to potential buyers, GM would be wise to field an entry into this market early in the game, and establish a foothold. GM should be quick to jump on emerging segments; it's what will help propel sales forward. One look at it's only competitor and you realize there is potential as it is not hard to be the best in this segment, inside and out.

Based on an enhanced and strengthened Lambda platform suitable for more heavy duty use, the AWD Switch is powered by a class leading 3.6L 300HP HF V6 and is the first to offer a V-8 engine in this segment, forcing it's primary competitor into an awkward market position. Another first for the segment is the Dual Mode Hybrid System, mated to a 3.6L HF V6 making 255 HP and getting excellent fuel economy. Great fuel economy would be the standard across the board, as the Switch would benefit from GM's extensive fuel economy work on the GMT-900's. GM brings it's innovations in the BOF Truck segment to the Switch, of which include Mid-Gate, AFM and the Dual Mode Hybrid System.

The Switch would help continue Saturn's new found reputation for refinement, competence and establish an image of being on top of the latest market trends. Certainly no replacement for the real, BOF trucks, the Saturn would help GM establish a position in this market without damaging the deserving reputations of traditional GM truck brands Chevy and GMC. Our proposed Switch arrives in 2010 as a 2011 model.

Switch Specifications Sheet
Vehicle Type: Large 4-Door 5-Passenger Sport Utility Truck (SUT)
Size Comparison: Honda Ridgeline
Competitors: Honda Ridgeline
Base Platform: Enhanced Lamda
Drive Wheels: FWD, AWD
Engines:
XE: 3.6L 300HP HF V6 - Starting at $27,650
GL: 3.6L 255HP HF V6 w/Dual Mode Hybrid System - Starting at $28,500
XR: 4.6L 380HP "Ultra" V8 - Starting at $35,950
Transmissions: 6 speed Automatic

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Old 02-08-2008, 10:20 PM   #4
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2012 Aura Base: XE
Mid-level: GL, XR
Up-level: RL
Body Styles: Sedan, SportWagon

Introduction
Designing the Aura was tough, as the current model has just been debuted recently, to industry-wide acclaim and a North American Car of The Year Award (NACOTY). We started with what we do know about the next generation Aura. The 2012 Saturn Aura will be virtually identical to it's European market counterpart, the Opel Vectra. Based on GM's highly flexible Epsilon II platform, the Vectra/Aura will be a good indication of where GM wants to take Saturn as a brand. As Saturn's flagship sedan, we didn't take this lightly.

Many have liked the Opel GTC Concept, and while some cues have been used on the Aura from the GTC, we decided to be creative and possibly influence the design direction of the Aura at GM. In our lineup, the Aura moves upmarket at the top end and closely mirrors it's chief competitor, the VW Passat. Firmly placed in the near-luxury market, Aura not only offers the standard technology suite required for competing in this segment, but also brings some new stuff to the table. Available and standard features include SmartKey, Bluetooth, Navigation, OnStar, Heated/Cooled Front & Rear Seats, Rain Sensing Wipers and Projector/LED Headlamps. The LED headlamps would be a first for it's segment. Another innovative feature is the availability of both heated and cooled seats for the rear passengers.

Based on the Epsilon II platform. the Aura changes tack with the introduction of a standard 4-cylinder Ecotec engine in the base XE model in place of the current OHV V6. Starting out at $22,150, XE is a great value and offers features that many have been longing for on a mid-size GM vehicle; an sporty drive, excellent interior, navigation availability, and a manual transmission to name a few. Next is the lineup is the Green Line (GL), starting at $25,150. In it's next generation, the GL takes GM's mainstream hybrid sedans to a new level by changing over to the Dual Mode hybrid system. Unlike the BAS in the current Aura, Dual Mode enables the GL to be a "full" hybrid, therefore yielding much better fuel economy ratings, a key marketing figure for the PR department and the "green" image Saturn is trying to craft. Starting at $29,950 and topping out at $36,950 fully loaded ($38,450 with AWD), the XR is all about luxury and upscale refinement. Elegant and luxurious, the XRís exterior oozes luxury and Euro style. The inside is no different; XR impresses with exotic combinations of real wood, two tone leather, and soft Amber LED lighting; Aura XR is the pinnacle of luxury for the Saturn brand. Next is the model with a completely different mission altogether: the RL, powered by a 3.6L 315HP V6 and coming fully loaded with AWD and Navigation. On the outside, the RL is aggressive and sports ground effects, aggressive front clip and darkened headlamp surrounds. Inside, RL eschews XR's luxury look for metallic trim and red ambient lighting. From a sedan for everyone (XE), to people looking to save gas (GL), to those looking for luxury (XR) and those wanting a sports sedan (RL), Aura's got it covered.

There is varying reports as to when the production Aura will debut; some have said 2010, others, 2012, so we're going with 2011 as the introduction date of our proposed 2012 Aura. It's going to be interesting; Saturn has time to take some of the ideas here into account; let's see if the production Aura reflects the work and detail put into the Aura by the RIA team.

Specifications Sheet
Vehicle Type: Midsize 5 Passenger 4-Door Sedan and 5-Door SportWagon
Size Comparison: VW Passat
Competitors: VW Passat, Lincoln MKZ, Acura TL
Base Platform: Epsilon II
Drive Wheels: FWD (Standard, XE/GL/XR), AWD (Option, XR), AWD (Standard, RL)
Engines:
XE: 2.0L 230HP Ecotec Turbo 4 - $22,150 - $24,950
GL: 2.0L 175HP Ecotec w/Dual Mode Hybrid System - $25,150 - $27,150
XR: 3.6L 285HP HF V6 - FWD: $29,995 to $36,950 | AWD: $31,495 - $38,450
RL: 3.6L 315HP HF V6 w/DI - $39,995 (Fully Loaded)
Transmissions: 6 Speed Automatic (Standard, XE/GL/XR), 6 Speed Manual (Optional, XE/XR/RL), 6-Speed DSG (Standard, RL)







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Old 02-08-2008, 10:54 PM   #5
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I don't know. It looks like a cross between the recently discontinued Subaru Baja and the slow selling Honda Ridgeline.

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Old 02-08-2008, 11:55 PM   #6
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I hope you guys realize the above information about Saturn's lineup is somebody's pipe dream over at GMi.

As for the Switch, if it's Outlook based, it will not have anything to do with the Denali XT. The Outlook is Lambda based, the XT is not. Also, the XT has a Hybrid V8 powertrain, which the Switch will certainly not have. The Switch, if it even happens at all, will be an SUV with a bed. The XT is intended to be more trucklike, but with a uni-body contruction.

If they build the XT and it looks the way the concept does (or at least close, without those god-aweful wheels) it WILL be my next truck. Oh yes, it will be mine.

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