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Old 10-22-2005, 12:16 AM   #1
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Default Shell Rotella T 5W40 good oil for the saturn 1.9?

I have a oil consumption problem on my 92 Saturn SL 1.9 DOHC and I remember reading a post that one guy is using Shell Rotella T 5W40 and his oil consumption has dropped. Is Shell Rotella T 5W40 good oil to use everyday? Does anyone here use this type of oil?

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Old 10-22-2005, 12:50 AM   #2
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Default Re: Shell Rotella T 5W40 good oil for the saturn 1.9?

I can't remember who it is, but there is someone that posts in the tech forum that is trying all kinds of different oils. He's on rotella now. Looks good so far.

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Old 10-22-2005, 10:20 AM   #3
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Default Re: Shell Rotella T 5W40 good oil for the saturn 1.9?

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If you want to go cheaper, try some Mobil Delvac 1300 15W40 which is about 6.50 a gallon at Wallys.
Although if you're in a cold climate, it might not be the best for winter starts.
These diesel oils have a stout detergent package which should help clean out the rings.
If you can find the German Castrol, that would be my best recommendation.
Try an Autozone in a bad part of town and look for 0W30 weight, MADE IN GERMANY only, not USA version they are totally different. The guys on BITOG paid to have it analyzed and the GC uses a special ester base that makes is a good cleaner. Good luck.

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Old 10-22-2005, 10:59 AM   #4
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Default Re: Shell Rotella T 5W40 good oil for the saturn 1.9?

is the 1.9L a diesel? I don't think we need advanced soot-handling... I use 5w30 Valvoline or whatever Saturn retailers fill it with. Saturn had some assocation with Valovoline or Quaker State if my memory is correct. or that was the ICY racing team when they raced Saturns. your 92 consumption problems can probably be resolved with valve guides and/or piston rings. or you could have a leak somewhere. my 92 SC had oil consumption so the the valve guides and piston rings were replaced. also I replaced the cam cover gasket.

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Old 10-22-2005, 11:13 AM   #5
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Default Re: Shell Rotella T 5W40 good oil for the saturn 1.9?

I use Castrol 10-40 weight which has reduced my oil consumption (along with some tricks) to 1 qt in 1500 miles. Next oil change I'm gonna try the mobil 7500 (changing every 3000 miles regardless of mobil's claims...), I've been hearing on other forums about it reducing even further oil consumption problems.

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Old 10-22-2005, 11:37 AM   #6
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I have been using Conoco 5-30 synth. I am burning 1 qt in 1000 miles. I did the MMO soak last night. Sure was smokey this morning. I may change to Mobil since I am now out of the Conoco.

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Old 10-22-2005, 12:10 PM   #7
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I use Shell Rotella T Syn 5w40 in my SL1. Its one of a few oils that have less oil consumption than others. Things to note, its officially an HDEO (Heavy Duty Engine Oil) and is designed for use in gas and diesel motors (fleet oil). HDEOs tend to help with oil consumption in our Saturns because they are designed for severe service, though it works out to something like $3.50/qt. The ONLY other oil I've tried that had low consumption was Chevron Supreme 5w30, which is also similar to Texaco Havoline. Different weights of Mobil1 (5w30, 10w30, 5w40) had no effect on consumption.

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Old 10-22-2005, 12:26 PM   #8
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Default Re: Shell Rotella T 5W40 good oil for the saturn 1.9?

I'm running 10W30 in my DOHC, and did an MMO soak. seems to be doing well. never seen heavier oils have an effect on consumption. if you are not leaking, do an MMOS and you should be good to go.

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Old 10-22-2005, 01:36 PM   #9
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I use Shell Rotella T Syn 5w40 in my SL1. Its one of a few oils that have less oil consumption than others. Things to note, its officially an HDEO (Heavy Duty Engine Oil) and is designed for use in gas and diesel motors (fleet oil). HDEOs tend to help with oil consumption in our Saturns because they are designed for severe service, though it works out to something like $3.50/qt. The ONLY other oil I've tried that had low consumption was Chevron Supreme 5w30, which is also similar to Texaco Havoline. Different weights of Mobil1 (5w30, 10w30, 5w40) had no effect on consumption.
Where can I buy shell rotella 5w40? Ive been to a few auto parts stores and they don't have it

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Old 10-22-2005, 02:55 PM   #10
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Most Wal-Marts have Rotella 5W40 syn usually right next to the Rotella dino gallons
blue quart bottles
3.62 / quart at mine in Indy

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Old 10-22-2005, 03:03 PM   #11
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is the 1.9L a diesel? I don't think we need advanced soot-handling...
the consensus seems to be that "stuck" oil rings is a contributor to oil consumption on the 1.9
these diesel oils have a lot of detergent but also meet the SL/SM gas specs although too thick to get the starburst energy conserving rating

anybody that has an oil burner can experiment
I was able to greatly improve consumption without any internal work

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Old 10-22-2005, 03:31 PM   #12
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Default Re: Shell Rotella T 5W40 good oil for the saturn 1.9?

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Originally Posted by Bill Murray
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(hard to believe that was 25 years ago, most of you younger guys weren't even born or were little kids)
http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55258

If you want to go cheaper, try some Mobil Delvac 1300 15W40 which is about 6.50 a gallon at Wallys.
Although if you're in a cold climate, it might not be the best for winter starts.
These diesel oils have a stout detergent package which should help clean out the rings.
If you can find the German Castrol, that would be my best recommendation.
Try an Autozone in a bad part of town and look for 0W30 weight, MADE IN GERMANY only, not USA version they are totally different. The guys on BITOG paid to have it analyzed and the GC uses a special ester base that makes is a good cleaner. Good luck.
I think 15W40 is to thick of a oil for everyday driving use especially since the cold weather is already here. Do you know the brand name of the 0W30 oil? Would this 0W30 oil be ok to use during the cold weather?

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Old 10-23-2005, 08:04 AM   #13
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Old 10-23-2005, 01:42 PM   #14
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Default Re: Shell Rotella T 5W40 good oil for the saturn 1.9?

Guys on Bobistheoilguy use Mobil Truck and SUV 5w-40 with success. I'm at 62K miles with my 1.9 and it only uses about 1/4 of a quart in 5000 miles so Im still using havoline 10w-30.

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Old 10-23-2005, 02:36 PM   #15
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Do you know the brand name of the 0W30 oil? Would this 0W30 oil be ok to use during the cold weather?
Castrol Syntec
but only made in Germany 0W30 grade


none of their other varieties sold in the USA have the PAO/ester base oil
yes it's a great cold weather oil
the pour point is -63C

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Old 10-25-2005, 07:33 PM   #16
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Would it be ok to switch to the shell rotella 5w40 in my car with 197,000 miles? I didn't know that it was synthetic until yesterday when I looked at the bottle. The previous owner used conventional oil and sometimes synthetic blend through out all of those miles. Will it be ok to switch?

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I use 20w50 valvoline in my 95 saturn with 120K most people think that is to thick but with more miles engines develop wear which leads to more gaps for the oil to sqeeze through. Car companies suggest very thin oil for two reasons one is that new engines have tighter tolerances the second is that car companies don't want your car to last forever. why would they? I still get 29mpg and have no problem in sub zero weather but that is also propaganda, because thinner oil doesn't cling to parts as well which can cause damage to higher milage engines and lower oil pressure that can become hazardous at higher rpms.

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obd, 20w50 is probably overkill on a 120k mile Saturn. Thicker oil is not always better, read through Bobistheoilguy to find out more. If you had a nearly worn out Saturn, the 20w50 may do you some good to cushion the gaps between parts, and subsequently reduce consumption, but in this case I doubt it. Some proof that 30wt is fine in Saturns is when members here have torn down their motors to find the factory hone marks at well over 100k. Oil flow is just as important as oil pressure, and flow is something you may not have compared to a 30wt on those oh so cold mornings.

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Old 11-02-2005, 11:06 PM   #19
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I posted this at Bob's site at the 122,756 mile mark. The high insolubles and reduced flash point are due to the t-stat running too cold (it's been replaced since then...)

Rotella 5w-40 is a top-notch product!

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I going to try 5w40 rotella. My car burns oil alot. My saturn has 197,800 miles on it. Every single week I have to add 1/4 of oil to the crankcase. I put about 360 miles a week on my car. My saturn has no leaks and no blue smoke from the tailpipe. The cars runs excellent but just eats oil every week. I hope this rotella 5w40 will slow down my oil consumption

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