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Old 06-12-2004, 10:16 PM   #1
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I assume I will be able to change this filter twice before the door for this thing breaks off. That whole plastic cowl section is the worst I've ever seen. Do you guys even bother putting this filter in any more?

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Old 06-12-2004, 10:37 PM   #2
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Yea the that whole cowl is pretty poorly made, I always have to bend the metal back into place everytime I open it. I still keep changing the filter though cause it does seem to work pretty well.

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Old 06-12-2004, 11:37 PM   #3
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I broke mine the first time :-(

I need to check that...


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Old 06-13-2004, 12:14 AM   #4
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I must be missing something here as I had no trouble getting to the filter on my 2000 LS2 and now on the 2004 L300.3.

Make sure you lift the cowl seal completely off the metal flange and put the screwdriver in from the front,not the side as shown in Handbook.

I live in a dusty area and wife has alergies so I changed filter more often than called for in LS2......must have replaced it at least a dozen times and the cover showed no signs of wear. If you try to pry it up from sides,I can see why the hinge might mot last too long.

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Old 06-13-2004, 10:11 AM   #5
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My LS had the same self-hinged piece of crap.

Contrast to my Corolla. Open glove compartment and squeeze sides.

Reach in and remove a door with 2 press snaps.

Pull out old filter. Push in new filter.

All of 2 minutes - no tools.

GM engineers are tremendously lacking in intelligence.

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Old 06-13-2004, 03:49 PM   #6
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I had no trouble changing mine, but I removed the hood seal first. Made it much easier to open the cover.

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Old 06-13-2004, 04:31 PM   #7
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How often should this be replaced?

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Old 06-13-2004, 05:47 PM   #8
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Possibly every 8K. Depends on where you drive.

When airflow on "fresh" is much less than on "recirc", it's time.

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Old 06-13-2004, 10:06 PM   #9
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Possibly every 8K. Depends on where you drive.

When airflow on "fresh" is much less than on "recirc", it's time.
:o: :o: :o: , well i guess at 17k i'd better get one and replace the old one...DOH!!

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Old 06-13-2004, 10:14 PM   #10
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Make sure you lift the cowl seal completely off the metal flange and put the screwdriver in from the front,not the side as shown in Handbook.

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Is that what they mean in the owner's manual when they say to "peel" the seal back?

My filter was changed a few weeks ago. Both center dash A/C vents worked fine prior to changing it. A few days later when we turned the air on the left center vent had no air flow at all, while all of the others worked fine and all other functions of the HVAC system functioned properly.

Anyway, I lifted up the lip from left to right and was popping up the cover as I went. It came up and there were same leaves and things next to the holes where the ductwork opened and closed.

I ran the system for awhile and low and behold the duct getting no air worked fine.

The hard part was closing the cover and trying to get the lip of the gasket over the edge of the cover. I'm guessing from what you said that I could have simply lifted the gasket off and merely pushed it back into place when I was done.

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Old 06-13-2004, 11:21 PM   #11
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How often should this be replaced?
I have to change mine every couple a months, its gets nasty pretty quick, I left the last one in a little too long and it got all moldy and crap.

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Old 06-14-2004, 12:08 AM   #12
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OOPS. My bad. I really thought that hood seal was glued on. I'll try pulling that seal off and prying up in the middle next time. Maybe I could make it last longer that way. That assembly is still awfully cheap though.

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Old 06-14-2004, 01:19 AM   #13
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Hans;

Yes,that is what they mean. The seal is a friction-fit thing with no fasteners and is very easy to remove and replace.....just pull straight up. Again,make sure you take seal completely off before trying to pry up the cover.

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Yes,that is what they mean. The seal is a friction-fit thing with no fasteners and is very easy to remove and replace.....just pull straight up. Again,make sure you take seal completely off before trying to pry up the cover.

Thanks! I don't know what happened when I had it off to make the center left A/C outlet get air again but it did.

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Old 06-14-2004, 07:43 AM   #15
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This thread motivated me to go out and check my Cabin Filter at 3 months and 7k/mi.

The filter was loaded with crap. And although I did follow 'lost wages' advice and pull the hood seal first, that filter housing does NOT inspire confidence. The whole thing tried to come up instead of just the middle section. It was a hassle.

My experience is from a Volvo dealership a few years back. Our Cabin filters were under a selaed cover held with a couple of T-25 screws as I recall.

Well, I had no replacement on hand so I vacuumed it and tapped it against a wall. For fun, I checked the Engine Air filter too fore the first time. It was hardly stained at all. ??!

Could, perhaps the Cabin Air Filter have been under-designed? Or is there just so much particulate matter suspended in the soCal air?

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I vote underdesigned since large matter should be kept entirely out by a screen.

Entire system is a Rube Goldberg piece of crap compared to the Corolla. No tools and a two minute change.

Guess GM should stop by the Toyota line at the plant they share in Fremont, CA and learn how a proper cabin filter assembly should be engineered.

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Old 06-14-2004, 10:30 AM   #17
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Don't forget. The L is basically an Opel Vectra. The filter design is probably from Opel. I have an Olds Silhouette. The cabin filters are changed thru the glove box.

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Old 06-14-2004, 11:19 AM   #18
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The L is very easy after doing it the 1st time. The VUE is a much better design with 2 plastic pull pins. Saturns are the 1st cars I have had these filters and they are expensive.. especially the VUE. I believe some Hondas it is a real task to get to the filter.

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Old 06-14-2004, 11:28 AM   #19
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Rick, they are a bit high for what they are. Believe it or not, Saturn was a dolllar cheaper than Pep Boys. I was surprised by that.

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Rick, they are a bit high for what they are. Believe it or not, Saturn was a dolllar cheaper than Pep Boys. I was surprised by that.

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I get the ones for the L for $8.07 from one dealer the other dealer charges $11.25. The one for the VUE costs $21.75 at one dealer and $27.95 at the other

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