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Old 10-15-2003, 09:07 AM   #1
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As some of you may know, I'm pulling my hair out trying to fix my 94 SL2 on the cheap. As I need a whole new rear brake assembly(calipers, pads, rotors), I was thinking why not use front calipers on the rear. I know I would have to buy front pads and rotors as well. Seeing as front calipers are cheaper, and would offer a little better braking, does anybody see anything wrong with this??

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Old 10-15-2003, 11:13 AM   #2
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First of all most of your braking is in the front wheels, like 70%. If you had equal pressure to all 4 wheels your rear wheels would drag when you hit the brakes. The rear calipers are setup to take the e brake also. The caliper rotates instead of just floating in and out. On top of that they are probably smaller than the front and won't fit.

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Old 10-15-2003, 11:19 AM   #3
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Cheap? I dunno about calipers, but you can get new rotors and pads for less than $60 combined.

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Old 10-15-2003, 11:30 AM   #4
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Cheap? I dunno about calipers, but you can get new rotors and pads for less than $60 combined.
I already have the rotors and pads. I'm trying to find out all my options before I invest a large sum of money into calipers (Which are shot)

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Old 10-15-2003, 12:31 PM   #5
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Did you take the caliper out and check them out yourself yet?

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Old 10-15-2003, 01:19 PM   #6
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Odd thing is that they released themselves after I drove in the rain the other day and they feel just fine. Except they where dragging all summer long...and the parking brake never worked.

EDIT: ahh screw it, I got the pads and rotors in yesterday, I'll just bring the car to my boss' mechanics and have him put everything together (I never have any free time)

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Old 10-15-2003, 01:22 PM   #7
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As some of you may know, I'm pulling my hair out trying to fix my 94 SL2 on the cheap. As I need a whole new rear brake assembly(calipers, pads, rotors), I was thinking why not use front calipers on the rear. I know I would have to buy front pads and rotors as well. Seeing as front calipers are cheaper, and would offer a little better braking, does anybody see anything wrong with this??
the front calipers will not fit on the rear. the rears are smaller. also the rears have the parking brake hardware attached.

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Old 10-16-2003, 01:10 AM   #8
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Odd thing is that they released themselves after I drove in the rain the other day and they feel just fine. Except they where dragging all summer long...and the parking brake never worked.
Sounds like the parking brake line is caused at least one of the problem above.

How do you know the brakes are "dragging"? They're suppose to have some "drag" for the brakes to self adjust.

What do you mean by parking brake never worked?

Have you ever adjust the parking brake?

When was the last time the rear pads are changed?

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Old 10-17-2003, 12:23 AM   #9
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Sounds like the parking brake line is caused at least one of the problem above.

How do you know the brakes are "dragging"? They're suppose to have some "drag" for the brakes to self adjust.

What do you mean by parking brake never worked?

Have you ever adjust the parking brake?

When was the last time the rear pads are changed?
Front pads are supposedly dragging more than usual according to Saturn

Parking brake lever hasn't come up more than 3-4 clicks since summer began

Nope

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Old 10-17-2003, 12:59 AM   #10
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Front pads are supposedly dragging more than usual according to Saturn

Ok. Jack the car up, then turn each wheel by hand and see how much drag there is. It's not difficult and it'll only take you 15 minutes, but after it, you'll be sure what's going on.


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Parking brake lever hasn't come up more than 3-4 clicks since summer began
It hasn't come up or it can't come up? More info please.

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Old 10-17-2003, 01:03 AM   #11
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When I tried to pull the lever up, I get about 3-4 clicks about 1.5 inches) then it would stop like it hit the top.

Now I can pull it all the way up, look into the mechanis and see no more ratchets to click through

If you'll excuse me, I have to go cry over tonights game

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Old 10-17-2003, 10:26 AM   #12
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When I tried to pull the lever up, I get about 3-4 clicks about 1.5 inches) then it would stop like it hit the top.

That sounds like the brake cable was over tighten and you're on your e-brake ALL the time.


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Now I can pull it all the way up, look into the mechanis and see no more ratchets to click through

Somebody adjusted it for you. They OVER adjusted it so now it's so loose. *probably the dealer*
E-brake cable is easy to adjust, now we just need to determine if the cailper is freezing or not.


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Ok. Jack the car up, then turn each wheel by hand and see how much drag there is. It's not difficult and it'll only take you 15 minutes, but after it, you'll be sure what's going on.

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Old 10-28-2003, 10:38 AM   #13
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UPDATE since I knew you were all curious as to what happened

Brought the car down to my boss' mechanic to have him put pads and rotors on all four corners. He says that the spring mechanism in the calipers for the e-brake is broken and if I pull up on the ebrake, the calipers will lock up again.

Any chance that the calipers can be repaired or am I still looking for new calipers??

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Old 10-28-2003, 02:25 PM   #14
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There are rebuilt kits you can buy.


BUT, a rebuilt one only cost ~$70 each, save yourself some hassle and buy that instead. *any auto store

Oh yeah, you'll need to BLEED the brake system afterward.

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Old 10-30-2003, 01:21 AM   #15
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amazinghl, got one more question for you then I'll stop pestering everybody (yeah right ).

Does this look like the right calipers to buy:

http://www.napaonline.com/cgi-bin/nc...grpid=55458569

EDIT: or should I go with this:

http://www.napaonline.com/cgi-bin/nc...grpid=55458574

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Old 10-30-2003, 01:07 PM   #16
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I'd go with the top one, change both left rear and right rear.

The price of the second, even with the pads, arn't justify to me. With the price of just ONE bottom one, I can get two of the top one!

Check your local napa FIRST before you pay the shipping! If they don't have it in stock, they can order it for you for FREE instead of you pay for the shipping!

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