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Old 12-04-2019, 10:25 PM   #1
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Default Stripped Out Rear Strut Spindle Bolt

I was changing a rear strut today and trying to run the bolt back in it stripped out. Now here's the thing, Should I try and run a different bolt thru or tap out the spindle threads ? I think I may have tried that before and it worked. Another thing is I have a tap for the hubs 12MM 1.5. If the spindle threads are stripped out and need tapped, do you know of the threads are the same as the hub threads ? The strut bolts looks pretty close to the same size diameter. If I have to I can replace the spindle but a tap should work if I can't run another bolt in. thanks for any suggestions.

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Old 12-04-2019, 10:33 PM   #2
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Maybe a pic would help us understand what you are talking about.

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Old 12-05-2019, 04:19 PM   #3
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I'll have to wait til I get home from work. My phone isn't letting me pull up any pictures. My home compter will. Stay tuned !

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Old 12-05-2019, 08:48 PM   #4
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017.jpg Here you go. Won't tighten up. Must have cross-threaded.

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Old 12-05-2019, 09:35 PM   #5
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Default Re: Stripped Out Rear Strut Spindle Bolt

So the bolt itself stripped? How are threads in knuckle? If they are good with no metal shaving get another bolt. If it torques down to properly specs you should be fine. Wouldn't hurt to run a tap into it to be sure.

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Old 12-05-2019, 11:44 PM   #6
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I was changing a rear strut today and trying to run the bolt back in it stripped out. Now here's the thing, Should I try and run a different bolt thru or tap out the spindle threads ? I think I may have tried that before and it worked. Another thing is I have a tap for the hubs 12MM 1.5. If the spindle threads are stripped out and need tapped, do you know of the threads are the same as the hub threads ? The strut bolts looks pretty close to the same size diameter. If I have to I can replace the spindle but a tap should work if I can't run another bolt in. thanks for any suggestions.
when you say "trying to run the bolt back in" does that mean you where using a power tool ??

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Old 12-06-2019, 03:05 PM   #7
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When I did my rear shocks, I fought with the strut spring so I had to resort to a two pronged attack. One jack held up the rear while another was used to jack up the shock to relieve tension on the bottom bolt. Unless tension is relieved, the bolt strains under spring load as its cocked downwards when removing it. The same occurs when reattaching the bolt. It must go in straight to thread correctly otherwise cross threading can occur to ruin anyone's day.

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Old 12-06-2019, 05:54 PM   #8
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This is the only video I believe anyone has done on swapping out the rear strut. The car was very much a northern car with the battle he had removing that bolt you have stripped.

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Old 12-07-2019, 09:53 AM   #9
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when you say "trying to run the bolt back in" does that mean you where using a power tool ??
Yep, impact gun. When I would run it out and back it seemed to go in a little farther but would stop turning after a few turns.

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Old 12-07-2019, 10:11 AM   #10
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When I did my rear shocks, I fought with the strut spring so I had to resort to a two pronged attack. One jack held up the rear while another was used to jack up the shock to relieve tension on the bottom bolt. Unless tension is relieved, the bolt strains under spring load as its cocked downwards when removing it. The same occurs when reattaching the bolt. It must go in straight to thread correctly otherwise cross threading can occur to ruin anyone's day.
That was how I did it. I must not have had it exactly straight. I have a tap as I stated above for the hubs that's a 12mm 1.5 tap that looks close to the same as the strut bolt diameter size. Pitch my be an issue tho. That's why I wondered it that tap will work if I can't get another bolt in it. I do have another bolt in my bolt collection if I do need to tap the knuckle. If it does't fit there's plenty of taps at the hardware store or at work that I can get. I'd probably have to find the correct bolt diameter to get the correct one. I just looked it up on the application at work and it shows the diameter of the stud. Wish me good luck, I have 2 nice days to get it done before the cold comes in again. I guess I shouldn't have sold my garage heater. lol.

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Old 12-07-2019, 12:37 PM   #11
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Yep, impact gun. When I would run it out and back it seemed to go in a little farther but would stop turning after a few turns.
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Old 12-07-2019, 01:58 PM   #12
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Does anyone know the size bolt this is in case I do need a tap ? I can't find anything online about it. I'm only getting other Saturn models that aren't the same.

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Old 12-07-2019, 02:01 PM   #13
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Pretty much. It went in by finger tightening it before as much as possible and then I just torqued it down to spec.

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For at home diy machining like finding the right tap or die, I use either drill charts from the various machinery suppliers or a simpler method. In your case, if you have a known good bolt and don't know its thread size and pitch, try meshing the tap to the bolt. If they mesh perfectly, this verifies thread pitch. If they don't mesh together the tap pitch isn't correct. To measure overall thread size, place the bolt next to the tap so one is behind the other as you examine both by eye from a foot away. If both diameters match you should be able to see upper and lower threads of the one behind as you move both up and down a little to change viewing angle. Taken to its extreme, say trying to match a 6-32 machine screw with a 1/4-20 tap, the machine screw diameter is smaller than the tap diameter and easily seen side by side or when held together with one behind the other. If the 6-32 screw is held in front of the tap, the tap body diameter will be seen as larger than the screw diameter. Perfectly matched diameters between bolts and taps will not show a large discrepancy. Some trial and error practice will provide eyeballing this way. I've learned over the years to do it this way without mistakes when attempting to identify thread size and pitch without a pitch gauge or caliper.

Starting taps are tapered to allow chasing stripped threads.

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Does anyone know the size bolt this is in case I do need a tap ? I can't find anything online about it. I'm only getting other Saturn models that aren't the same.
Are you able to measure the OD of the thread ?

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Are you able to measure the OD of the thread ?
Sorry, correct. If I need to tap the knuckle, which I'll probably do in case it is stripped, I'd need the correct OD of the bolt to get one correct.

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Sorry, correct. If I need to tap the knuckle, which I'll probably do in case it is stripped, I'd need the correct OD of the bolt to get one correct.
Not sure if you are saying you can or cant measure it ?

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Sorry, correct. If I need to tap the knuckle, which I'll probably do in case it is stripped, I'd need the correct OD of the bolt to get one correct.
You have used the word "stripped" several times.
But from what you describe it sounds more like a cross thread or damaged thread condition. They are not the same thing. A stripped thread will have the threads stripped out,meaning there are no threads left. In that case using the original size thread tap will do nothing as there is no metal left to tap.

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You're right, it is 2 different things. It cross threaded. Today I got lucky and had only 4 studs/lug nuts in the front hub because it cross threaded in the hub putting the tire back on about 2 months ago. My tap wouldn't work so I took some P Blaster, took another stud and ran it forward with impact wrench and it went right in. Maybe it would work the same way with another knuckle bolt I have.

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You're right, it is 2 different things. It cross threaded. Today I got lucky and had only 4 studs/lug nuts in the front hub because it cross threaded in the hub putting the tire back on about 2 months ago. My tap wouldn't work so I took some P Blaster, took another stud and ran it forward with impact wrench and it went right in. Maybe it would work the same way with another knuckle bolt I have.
Hmm, your preference for an impact wrench will lead to future problems.
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