short throw shifter

gnarkill · 11-08-2009, 08:03 PM

I have a 99 saturn sl2 and i cant find a short throw shifter anywhere online. anyone know of where to buy one?

hAnNibAl_H · 11-08-2009, 08:10 PM

Very rare. Sometimes can be found on ebay for $70-150. However you can make your own 'short shifter' by removing the knob, using a dremel, saw, or cutting tool and cut off a couple inches, then put a shift knob back on. This will give you a shorter shift (not shorter throw) but still have the cooler appearance rather than having a giant stick coming from the floor.

johnny95sl2 · 11-08-2009, 08:28 PM

Look for user VMS150 on here over at 6S. He makes a true short shifter.

Ghettoracer · 11-09-2009, 01:45 AM

I cut 3 inches off my shifter LOL I'm going to have to get pics of it but it looks hell nice now and the throws are a little cleaner than sloppy.

bigbfarm · 11-09-2009, 08:28 AM

How do you remove the "shift knob"? Is it a press fit where you just pull hard?

richpin06 · 11-09-2009, 10:00 AM

To remove the knob just pull hard it will come right off.Now if you do not have the strength to do so you can try this method below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkCKZXG3-Us

bigbfarm · 11-10-2009, 04:54 PM

Thanks Richpin, another great video. Question though, after cutting off shift rod do you just push down leather boot? I'm tempted to remove console so I can see how boot is mounted onto shifter. I cut off about an inch but it seems knob is just riding on top of boot.

ShawnV · 11-11-2009, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnarkill

I have a 99 saturn sl2 and i cant find a short throw shifter anywhere online. anyone know of where to buy one?

So I need a little educating... What is a short throw shifter and why is it desirable?

IVIYTH0S · 11-11-2009, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShawnV

So I need a little educating... What is a short throw shifter and why is it desirable?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4GlZ...eature=related

it's shorter at the pivot point so the shifts aren't as sloppy

madpogue · 11-11-2009, 01:30 AM

Actually, it's longer BELOW the pivot point, so there's more cable movement for a given amount of angular movement of the shifter, and thus less angular travel (throw) of the shifter to move it from gear to gear.

IVIYTH0S · 11-11-2009, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madpogue

Actually, it's longer BELOW the pivot point, so there's more cable movement for a given amount of angular movement of the shifter, and thus less angular travel (throw) of the shifter to move it from gear to gear.

That's what I meant to say, like in our case, our pivot point would have to be lowered

madpogue · 11-11-2009, 01:48 AM

No, in ANY case, the pivot point has to be RAISED.

IVIYTH0S · 11-11-2009, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madpogue

No, in ANY case, the pivot point has to be RAISED.

damn I just thought about it, you're right

SLCraig · 11-11-2009, 03:09 AM

I love short throws. I had one on my R/T.. it was much more fun with it.

I'd just have to get my pressure plate replaced and I'd probably actually be able to engage first gear with a short throw :P

rc1488 · 11-11-2009, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richpin06

To remove the knob just pull hard it will come right off.Now if you do not have the strength to do so you can try this method below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkCKZXG3-Us

How come NO one thought of doing it that way. We always said PULL!

Leafy · 11-11-2009, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richpin06

To remove the knob just pull hard it will come right off.Now if you do not have the strength to do so you can try this method below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkCKZXG3-Us

genius.

oh and someone was wondering how the leather boot attaches to the assembly, heres the one sitting in my room, yum staples. Cant see it too great but its stapled to the plastic rim thingy, dont know if they're all like that.

fetchitfido · 11-11-2009, 01:29 PM

I think with a 1st gen shifter it's the same way with staples, but instead of the boot being trapped between the shifter and console like your 2nd or 3rd gen in the pic it's clipped in from the top. At least my '93 was anyway...stupid clips broke so now the boot flops a bit all the time.

bigbfarm · 11-11-2009, 01:34 PM

On my 96 sl2 I the boot was being held by a plastic clip on the top, I ended up putting my 30mm deep well over shifter and pounded it down till the clip broke. Maybe a better way but it worked for me.
Noticed the SouthEast Clutch box in photo. Curious if it was any good. I was shipped one by mistake and they didn't want it back.

1998saturnsl2 · 12-06-2015, 11:40 AM

I have one short throw shifter left if anyone is looking for one.

Here's the Craigslist link but don't fret I can ship anywhere in US.
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/pts/5347692723.html

11-08-2009, 08:03 PM	#1
gnarkill New Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3	short throw shifter I have a 99 saturn sl2 and i cant find a short throw shifter anywhere online. anyone know of where to buy one?

11-08-2009, 08:10 PM	#2
hAnNibAl_H Advanced Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Youngstown Posts: 555 1999 SL2	Re: short throw shifter Very rare. Sometimes can be found on ebay for $70-150. However you can make your own 'short shifter' by removing the knob, using a dremel, saw, or cutting tool and cut off a couple inches, then put a shift knob back on. This will give you a shorter shift (not shorter throw) but still have the cooler appearance rather than having a giant stick coming from the floor. ... 99.5 SL2 Blackberry 135k clock 74k Motor

11-08-2009, 08:28 PM	#3
johnny95sl2 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,139 1997 SW2 1995 SC2	Re: short throw shifter Look for user VMS150 on here over at 6S. He makes a true short shifter.

11-09-2009, 01:45 AM	#4
Ghettoracer Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oregon Posts: 76 1996 SC1	Re: short throw shifter I cut 3 inches off my shifter LOL I'm going to have to get pics of it but it looks hell nice now and the throws are a little cleaner than sloppy. ... 1996 Saturn SC1 Coupe - 1.9L SOHC, 5 speed MP2 Mods: AEM CAI, Exhaust Muffler, more to come...

11-09-2009, 08:28 AM	#5
bigbfarm Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Annandale, MN Posts: 266 bigbfarm's Photos 1996 SL2 1997 SW2	Re: short throw shifter How do you remove the "shift knob"? Is it a press fit where you just pull hard?

11-09-2009, 10:00 AM	#6
richpin06 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: MA Posts: 1,851 richpin06's Photos 1998 SL2	Re: short throw shifter To remove the knob just pull hard it will come right off.Now if you do not have the strength to do so you can try this method below. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkCKZXG3-Us ... http://www.youtube.com/richpin06a

11-10-2009, 04:54 PM	#7
bigbfarm Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Annandale, MN Posts: 266 bigbfarm's Photos 1996 SL2 1997 SW2	Re: short throw shifter Thanks Richpin, another great video. Question though, after cutting off shift rod do you just push down leather boot? I'm tempted to remove console so I can see how boot is mounted onto shifter. I cut off about an inch but it seems knob is just riding on top of boot.

11-11-2009, 01:30 AM	#10
madpogue Super Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Madison, WI USA Posts: 25,715 madpogue's Photos 1996 SW2	Re: short throw shifter Actually, it's longer BELOW the pivot point, so there's more cable movement for a given amount of angular movement of the shifter, and thus less angular travel (throw) of the shifter to move it from gear to gear.

11-11-2009, 01:48 AM	#12
madpogue Super Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Madison, WI USA Posts: 25,715 madpogue's Photos 1996 SW2	Re: short throw shifter No, in ANY case, the pivot point has to be RAISED.

11-11-2009, 03:09 AM	#14
SLCraig Master Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: London, ON Posts: 3,077 1996 SL2 2000 SW2	Re: short throw shifter I love short throws. I had one on my R/T.. it was much more fun with it. I'd just have to get my pressure plate replaced and I'd probably actually be able to engage first gear with a short throw :P ... 1996 SL2 5MT 1997 SL1 5MT 2000 SW2 5MT All gone, but not forgotten.

11-11-2009, 01:29 PM	#17
fetchitfido Super Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 14,786 fetchitfido's Photos 2001 SC2	Re: short throw shifter I think with a 1st gen shifter it's the same way with staples, but instead of the boot being trapped between the shifter and console like your 2nd or 3rd gen in the pic it's clipped in from the top. At least my '93 was anyway...stupid clips broke so now the boot flops a bit all the time. ... The proper way to fix a S-Series automatic is to replace it with a 5spd O:)

11-11-2009, 01:34 PM	#18
bigbfarm Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Annandale, MN Posts: 266 bigbfarm's Photos 1996 SL2 1997 SW2	Re: short throw shifter On my 96 sl2 I the boot was being held by a plastic clip on the top, I ended up putting my 30mm deep well over shifter and pounded it down till the clip broke. Maybe a better way but it worked for me. Noticed the SouthEast Clutch box in photo. Curious if it was any good. I was shipped one by mistake and they didn't want it back.

12-06-2015, 11:40 AM	#19
1998saturnsl2 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 27 1998 SL2	Re: short throw shifter I have one short throw shifter left if anyone is looking for one. Here's the Craigslist link but don't fret I can ship anywhere in US. http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/pts/5347692723.html ... Eh...don't worry about it...It's a saturn :]

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