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Old 01-25-2007, 12:48 AM   #1
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My clutch hydraulics are bad and Ive noticed ppl usually go with the autozone preblead unit for like 82 dollars or something. sounds good to me, but my question is how long does the job take? im a saturn clutch hydraulic virgin. i dont know whether to do it on the weekend, or if i can do it within a 3 hour period i have free on friday. any advice will help to make my life easier :P

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Old 01-25-2007, 01:57 AM   #2
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Slave or master cylinder man? Give us something to go on.

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Old 01-25-2007, 02:51 AM   #3
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Well, the slave cylinder setup is pretty damn easy to do. My car has the battery relocated to the trunk, so it's real fast lol.

Once you move the battery and tray and the intake, there is not much to it. There is a clip on top of the clutch pedal arm where the slave is connected and the unit is removed from the firewall by twisting it to the left, and pulls through. On the trans side, you remove the two 13mm bolts from the support and twist the assembly to the left as well to release it.

Re-install is the opposite but you have to be careful, the new setup should have the pushrod held into the unit with two ears (this will make sense when you see it), leave them in place when you re-insert into the trans (they release when you hit the clutch pedal) then re-bolt the suport. Also be gentle when twisting, it should go very easily to the right and the same goes for the firewall re-install (this can be tricky with the brake lines). Re-attach the clip on the clutch pedal arm and you are set.

It really should not take too long. My car is gutted all over so I can't judge on an oem setup but I gotta say less than 90 minutes with all the oem stuff in the way and being careful.

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Old 01-25-2007, 07:40 AM   #4
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If it takes you an hour, you took a 15 minute break. It's down right easy. I believe there's a How-To for it in the How-To library.

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Old 01-25-2007, 10:01 AM   #5
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First time through will take perhaps 75 minutes if you have anti-lock brakes, a bit less if not, and a lot less if you are experienced working on the Saturn. Follow the instruction in the How-to-library forum. Check position of the slave operating rod vis-a-vis the clutch pedal as you install the replacement in the fire wall to be sure it is in the correct positon before you rotate the unit in to the locked position.

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Old 01-25-2007, 10:15 AM   #6
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This should be in the How-To but, just in case, the assembly will comes with a plastic strap on the pin on the slave cylinder. It looks like something you are supposed to take off. DON'T!!! Leave it on. It's there to keep the pin from falling into the bell housing when you install it.

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Old 01-25-2007, 05:07 PM   #7
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well thanks for all the replies. i was talking about replacing the whole master/slave assembly if you didnt figure that out. I tried to see if napa had something like it but they didnt. I guess autozone is the only place? that sucks i dont have one in town. I filled up my resivour because it appeared to be empty, Im sure i probably sucked air in there. my pedal feels like ass. Im not really sure which cylinder is leaking but I plan on replacing the whole assembly for ease of install mostly. im also about to spend 200 dollars for a brake system overhaul and another hundred for a few switches i needed and a couple mirrors.

also i checked autozone online and the price for the prebleed unit was 129.99, i thought i read it was like 82$ on here somewhere. saturnparts.net is 145.xx

also also, i searched the how to's and didnt find the post. thats the first thing i did b4 i posted

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Old 01-25-2007, 05:17 PM   #8
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I will add that in order to get the battery tray out, there is a third bolt that you have to remove from the driver-side wheel well. Might have to jack up the car because it sits behind the tire. This one really tripped me up when I did mine. Took about 1/2 hour of cursing before I finally figured this out. No mention of it in my Haynes manual if I remember right.

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Old 01-25-2007, 05:26 PM   #9
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ASE_Tek0312 if you're losing fluid, it's probably your slave cylinder but, it doesn't matter because you're going to get told to replace the whole thing anyway. Instructions from memory:

Take out the battery and battery tray (Good time to clean that tray up with some baking soda and water BTW.). As previously mentioned one of the bolts for the battery tray is in the driver's side wheel well.

Unclip the shaft from the clutch pedal to the master cylinder inside the car.

Unbolt the brackets on the slave cylinder.

Turn the master cylinder 1/4 turn counter clockwise to get it off. If you have ABS, you'll have to loosen the bolts on the brake master cylinder and move it out a bit from the firewall.

Push the slave cylinder in and turn 1/4 turn counter clockwise to get it out.

Going in is pretty much the opposite of going out.

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Old 01-25-2007, 05:33 PM   #10
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thanks buddy, i just need to get my part in to do this. i hope my clutch is still usuable till then. right now its hard to shift and the clutch needs to be about 2 more inches depressed to disengauge than normal. still dont know if its only available at autozone and saturn

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Old 01-25-2007, 05:53 PM   #11
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also i checked autozone online and the price for the prebleed unit was 129.99, i thought i read it was like 82$ on here somewhere. saturnparts.net is 145.xx
I only paid $81.99 from AZ when I bought mine 4 months ago but I just checked online and it says $129.99 now. For the little price difference, I might go OEM.

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I only paid $81.99 from AZ when I bought mine 4 months ago but I just checked online and it says $129.99 now. For the little price difference, I might go OEM.
Yeah they did go down for a while. It used to be around $180 from AZ and I'd tell everyone to go OEM. Then they were at around $82 and I'd say it was an option but, no data on durability. If they're back to $130 then, I'm back to saying OEM.

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Old 01-26-2007, 12:11 AM   #13
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haha too late I had to order mine from AZ to get it by saturday so i could do it this week, already paid. basically I only have acess to AZ on the weekends (college). so it will be about 140 from AZ with tax, and about 165 or so with shipping from saturnparts.net. Saving 25 dollars and about a week. hmm owell I think it will be okay. did anyone notice anything cheap about the AZ one when they compared it to their OEM one they removed?

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Old 01-26-2007, 01:20 PM   #14
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did anyone notice anything cheap about the AZ one when they compared it to their OEM one they removed?
They looked exactly the same to me. The only difference I noticed is that the clutch effort was less than before or on my other car with manual trans. At least the one from AZ comes with a lifetime warranty.

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Old 01-26-2007, 02:00 PM   #15
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sweet lifetime warranty, im excited now i didnt even see that

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