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Old 05-06-2018, 09:26 PM   #1
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I am wondering if anybody knows where i can get a manual subframe for my 2001 l100, i have a 2.2 ecotec. Is there any car i can use it subframe on my saturn. I'm doing a new motor and trans on my car and I am wondering these things. all help is appreciated.

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Old 05-07-2018, 02:20 AM   #2
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I am wondering if anybody knows where i can get a manual subframe for my 2001 l100, i have a 2.2 ecotec. Is there any car i can use it subframe on my saturn. I'm doing a new motor and trans on my car and I am wondering these things. all help is appreciated.
Welcome to SaturnFans, Wrenchturning! Wrecking yards are the only sources for replacement sub-frames. You can look them up through http://car-part.com (a website for wrecking yards and their parts availability nationally) or look through e-bay and see what you can find. In general, more choices for a sub-frame in good condition will come from states where roads aren't salted in the Winter-so called Sun-Belt states or the South, generally.

Lastly, if you're keeping your manual transmission then a sub-frame from any L-Series car that had a 2.2L engine and manual transmission from '00 to '03 will work. If you wish to change the transmission to an automatic then any one will work if it's from an L-Series car from '00 - '04. The Factory Service Manual states that all mounting bolts must be replaced whenever the sub-frame and frame rails have been separated.

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Old 05-07-2018, 10:09 AM   #3
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Fully agree with Pierrot on this. Parts for our orphan Satty's get harder and harder. Besides the specialist supplier that Pierrot mentioned, and the junk yards, you could always just Google and see what gets thrown up. I just did that and Ebay has quite a few sources for the sub-frames.

One thing though is freight on these items. They are large, bulky and heavy. One on Ebay was $165.00 for the sub-frame and $190.00 to ship it! So if you can source locally, you will save money.

If you do end up sourcing a good one, rather than cleaning it up and painting it yourself, you could do worse and get it powdered coated if you have someone where you live that offers it. Powder coating will make for a much stronger and resilient finish on the sub-frame.

One thing that some people on here have experienced is that within the sub-frames are several cage nuts. If they get really rusty, they can end up loosening in the frame and end up spinning. Whilst you can still get the bolts from GM, the cage nuts are no longer available. So if you plan on removing the old frame or certainly with a new frame, ensure the cage nuts are well lubricated and not damaged.

One final thing is that with some of the junkyards, you can create accounts and get notifications if a particular part comes in. So if they get an L series, they'll email you and you'll get first dabs at it.

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Old 05-08-2018, 12:14 AM   #4
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Thanks giys, I have looked on eBay for l series manual subframe and can only find automatic SF's. Lucky for me this is a project car for long distance travel, I prefer manual to auto. I as think of doing a L61 with a 6spd if possible. What do y'all think.

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It would be nice if it's feasible. I have no knowledge on the subject either way. Admittedly, I have my doubts, but I wouldn't mind having my doubts proved wrong as this is not personal for me. I've not checked this for myself, but did GM provide a six speed manual transmission at some time which was coupled to an ECOTEC 2.2L or 2.4L engine?

The difficulty with finding a sub-frame for a manual transmission paired to an L61 is that the number of L-Series cars which were sold with them was relatively low. It's surprising that Saturn kept them available through it's fourth year of production ('03). Car-part.com shows them available in wrecking yards around the country. If you add your zip code location you can see how near or far this part is from you. As was pointed out by floridasl22002, if the part is shipped to you then the cost will increase substantially, probably doubling the price if you must acquire it in that way. Additionally, he is also correct to point out that our cars are orphans and that their newest model year version stocked with a M/T means their youngest age would be fifteen years old - in my case it's eighteen, but my car has an A/T - so parts are not getting any more available than they will be now. Only you can choose what seems to be the best choice for you. I wish you the best of success! Please keep us updated with your progress.

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Thanks guys, I will keep y'all updated if this goes anywhere. Thanks for yalls help and advice I'm going to check with my work to see if I can get it frieghted to them if/when I find one. Oh before I forget, I could be wrong what I'm building, I am wanting to do a 2.0 turbo; and I don't think they made a six speed. Again thanks for your help let y'all know when I finalize the plan and expenses.

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The manual subframes are rarer and harder to find. There is only one difference between the manual and the automatic version. There is a horn or prong on the rear cross member for mounting the shifter mechanism. My experience is that the rust affects the front and (especially driver's) side members, but not much the rear cross member. The horn could be removed from the old frame by grinding off the welds and welding it to the new(er) automatic frame. Naturally the position must be accurately duplicated.

Note that the engine/trans assembly rides about 2" farther to the back on the manual. This is accommodated by offsets in the bolted on aluminum mounts, so the frame has the same geometry.

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