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Old 07-04-2010, 02:21 PM   #1
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2004 manual fwd saturn vue blinker intermitantly working. How difficult to replace hazard switch part #10359038 yourself? Is it in the steering column? We just had an airbag light fixed and clock spring replaced so we wouldn't want to open up the steering column ourselves.

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Old 07-04-2010, 04:12 PM   #2
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2004 manual fwd saturn vue blinker intermitantly working. How difficult to replace hazard switch part #10359038 yourself? Is it in the steering column? We just had an airbag light fixed and clock spring replaced so we wouldn't want to open up the steering column ourselves.
A single flasher serves the hazard and turn signals and is part of the assembly behind the hazard button on center instrument panel.

I've not dug into this mess but I understand its not too difficult to replace the assembly.

I've attached a couple of files - but the center console remove / replace (R2)instructions exceed forum limits. I'll email if you send address by private message.
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Old 07-06-2010, 01:13 PM   #3
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Took the vehicle to champion chevrolet and since the blinker was currently working they said the could not diagnose it. They want me to leave the vehicle there all day so that they can periodically start it (which usually resets the engine and gets the blinker to work again) through out the day. Not happy with these people. How is seeing the blinker not working going to change anything(unless he though i was not telling the truth about it not working). It is our only vehicle with car seats so I can't just leave it all day unless it was an emergency. far2grumpy going to have to send you my e-mail. I am just not loving champion chevrolet at the moment.

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Old 07-06-2010, 02:39 PM   #4
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Took the vehicle to champion chevrolet and since the blinker was currently working they said the could not diagnose it. They want me to leave the vehicle there all day so that they can periodically start it (which usually resets the engine and gets the blinker to work again) through out the day. Not happy with these people. How is seeing the blinker not working going to change anything(unless he though i was not telling the truth about it not working). It is our only vehicle with car seats so I can't just leave it all day unless it was an emergency. far2grumpy going to have to send you my e-mail. I am just not loving champion chevrolet at the moment.
I'd suggest you not leave the Vue with them.

A few items could contribute to the intermittent operation. I'm thinking it could be caused by a large load on the electrical system. For example, when engine RPM is low and you're using lights, A/C, blower on high and radio the alternator probably can't keep up with demand. This is a normal condition but does result in a lower voltage being delivered to the flasher assembly. If the flasher is a tad flaky it'll work when voltage is high but not work when voltage is low.

Don't get the impression there's a problem with your electrical system - I'd say if you get a good strong crank from your starter, when needed, the battery and alternator are "spot-on".

I've emailed instructions to replace the flasher assembly. You could call several places to compare prices. The INTERNET is always a good option and you could check with saturnparts.net or Rockauto.

Please repost if you'd like to have assistance finding the flasher.

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Old 07-06-2010, 02:46 PM   #5
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Electrical problems can be a PITA to diagnose. When they are working properly it is VERY difficult to tell what is wrong since all proper signals are being made.

You can drop it off with them and spend 10 hours of shop labor rates to find a problem on an intermittent problem or wait til its good and broken to spend 1 hour of shop labor rates to find the obvious problem and fix it.

All depends if you want it fixed or to throw money at it.

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Old 07-06-2010, 04:05 PM   #6
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If it is the hazard switch will it eventually go out and STAY out permanently? Over the past two months the blinkers stopped working maybe once every week. Since the past week they are going out about every ten-fifteen minutes of driving. I am tempted to wait until the hazard switch goes(if that is what the problem is) and the blinkers stay off permanently to take it in or just spend $40 bucks now and replace the switch ourselves. Those are the two options that I think we are trying to decide between.
The champion chevrolet wants $115 just to diagnose the problem. So, as long as we don't break anything(plastic bevel trying to bet it off) and the hazard switch is what the problem is then we would be ahead to just buy the part.

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If it is the hazard switch will it eventually go out and STAY out permanently? Over the past two months the blinkers stopped working maybe once every week. Since the past week they are going out about every ten-fifteen minutes of driving. I am tempted to wait until the hazard switch goes(if that is what the problem is) and the blinkers stay off permanently to take it in or just spend $40 bucks now and replace the switch ourselves. Those are the two options that I think we are trying to decide between.
The champion chevrolet wants $115 just to diagnose the problem. So, as long as we don't break anything(plastic bevel trying to bet it off) and the hazard switch is what the problem is then we would be ahead to just buy the part.
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Lets make sure we (I) understand the problem.

Are you saying the turn signals don't always work as expected?

If it is the turn signals, do they fail on both sides, sometimes right turn and sometimes left turn?

Do you know the signals aren't working because the lights on the dash don't blink, or you know for sure the external turning lights also aren't blinking?

If it is the turn signals - next time they fail to blink - cancel the turn signal and press the hazard switch to see if it blinks.

If it does, you might also determine if hazards are blinking on the four corners.

If the hazards always operate normally, the problem is probably caused by the turn signal switch in the steering column.

Don't despair because other forum members have found this switch easy to change.

You can find a diagram of the turn and hazard lights in post # 3 of the following thread:

http://saturnfans3.saturnfans.com/~s...d.php?t=139633

The diagram might not mean much to you but you may know someone who can look at the diagram and explain how the single flasher provides signals for turn signals and hazard lights.

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Old 07-07-2010, 12:14 AM   #8
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Default Re: saturn vue blinker intermitantly working. How difficult to fix yourself?

I too am wondering what "not working intermittently" means?

As in does not flash (but come on)

Or... Don't do nothing at all

The blinkers not flashing could be something as simple as a loose bulb...

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Old 07-19-2010, 10:49 AM   #9
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Default Re: saturn vue blinker intermitantly working. How difficult to fix yourself?

far2grumpy, could you also PM me that center console PDF that's too large for the forum? I believe I also have a problem with my hazard/flasher, if I understand the OP we're in the same boat:

About 80% of the time I have normal working turn signals, but the other 20% they're dead when I try to use them -- left or right. I'll have to troubleshoot with the hazards themselves when I'm experiencing the turn signal problem. Usually the working or not working state of the turn signals will persist until the next time I drive it, but lately I've been noticing that during the same drive it will alternate between working and not working when I go to use them.

KoolVue's problem description in post #3 of this thread from four years ago: saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77906 describes mine exactly. Unfortunately, there was no follow up report to say that replacing the flasher fixed the problem. For ~$40 is seems like a good gamble.

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I hope yall don't mind me asking, but my blinkers work. The problem is when the turn switch is off or the hazzards are off, my relay is clicking at 2x speed but no lights are flashing. Blinkers and hazzards work fine, I just can't stand the constant clicking all the time while driving. Does this souund like a switch problem or a relay problem?

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A single flasher serves the hazard and turn signals and is part of the assembly behind the hazard button on center instrument panel.

I've not dug into this mess but I understand its not too difficult to replace the assembly.

I've attached a couple of files - but the center console remove / replace (R2)instructions exceed forum limits. I'll email if you send address by private message.
greetings mr. grumpy!

would you be so kind as to mail me these instructinon's as well.

[center console remove / replace (R2)instructions]

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greetings mr. grumpy!

would you be so kind as to mail me these instructinon's as well.

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Does the VUE not have a cheap plug-in flasher that anyone can replace? It could be the flasher if the problem is not the switches in the steering column that are controlled by the LH stalk. Like far2grumpy is trying to get you to do, you have to determine if the problem is the stalk or flasher. So, the next time the turn signals don't work, hit the hazard lights to see if it makes all the lights flash that it's supposed to. Turn it right off and check the turn signals again. If the flasher works with the hazard light switch, the problem is most likely in the steering column. If the turn signals still don't work right after the hazard light is turned off, it just about proves it's the stalk.....unless the VUE has a 2-flasher set-up, one for the turns and one for the hazards.

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Did you find the solution for this...mine is doing the exact same thing! Thanks!

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Did you find the solution for this...mine is doing the exact same thing! Thanks!
The turn signal and hazard flasher is a single unit. Sounds like yours is due for replacement. You'll need to obtain a new flasher. RockAuto sells for around $44 USD - shop around and you might find a better deal.

You'll also need to remove the instrument panel. I've attached two files to this post but the IP panel file is too large to attach. I can email if you PM address.
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The turn signal and hazard flasher is a single unit. Sounds like yours is due for replacement. You'll need to obtain a new flasher. RockAuto sells for around $44 USD - shop around and you might find a better deal.

You'll also need to remove the instrument panel. I've attached two files to this post but the IP panel file is too large to attach. I can email if you PM address.
I had the same problem and replaced with this part, it was real easy and took care of the issue.

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I have a problem with the signal lights sometimes working. I have a 2004 saturn vue v6. When the signal lights don't work they don't show on the dashboard and don't work outside either. The hazard lights work perfectly. One thing I've noticed is when the signal lights don't work, if I press the hazard light button a little the signal light will work. I have to keep my finger pressed for the signal to keep working.

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I have a problem with the signal lights sometimes working. I have a 2004 saturn vue v6. When the signal lights don't work they don't show on the dashboard and don't work outside either. The hazard lights work perfectly. One thing I've noticed is when the signal lights don't work, if I press the hazard light button a little the signal light will work. I have to keep my finger pressed for the signal to keep working.
I would replace the turn/hazard flasher.

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My hazard flasher button pushed into the dash and I temporarily fixed it. Then a couple months later, sometimes the signal light would work and sometimes it would stop working, maybe 15 - 30 seconds after the car was started. Then the flasher button pushed into the dash again. If we tapped the hazard flasher button, the turn signal work for a very short while.

Someone else posted about a bezel you can buy (about $25 from the dealer) that the flasher unit slips and locks into so I got that from the dealer and a new flasher from Partsgeek.com for like $35 with shipping and everything works fine now. The bezel for an 04 Vue was part# 22702075. You could use duct tape but I'd rather repair it "properly" and it didn't cost much more.

The bezel is a very poor design and will likely break after pushing the hazard button enough times so be gentle when pushing it.

There's a Youtube video on the internet showing how to remove the console and electrical connections to get the console all the way off so you can replace the bezel - not very hard - just take your time.

All the info on here really helped so thank you everyone.

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I had the same problem and replaced with this part, it was real easy and took care of the issue.
Checking is this the part?

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...,flasher,10139

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