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Old 02-03-2007, 07:38 PM   #1
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Default Oil in coolant (head gasket?)

1995 SL1 4banger SOHC-

Symptoms:

1) Losing oil somewhere, no oil spots on the ground.
2) Coolant is loaded with oil (it's a grey greasy mess).
3) No coolant seems to be in the oil!

I thought it was a head gasket, now I'm not so sure...

I can't figure out why I don't see coolant in the oil.

What am I missing?

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Old 02-03-2007, 07:58 PM   #2
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From what you have posted, it appears it is a head gasket.

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Old 02-03-2007, 08:08 PM   #3
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Default Re: Oil in coolant (head gasket?)

Head gaskets are pretty solid on these engines, I'm told. Most probably - cracked head. There are quite a few threads on SOHC cracked heads. Good luck, that 95 head might be hard to find. There are also threads on tapping the extra hole you need, in other year heads.

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Old 02-03-2007, 08:23 PM   #4
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Well there's hope. Bigdaddy thinks headgasket. Head has to come off any way. The classic crack is between third & fourth cyl. When the head is cleaned up, it's hard to miss.

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Old 02-03-2007, 09:12 PM   #5
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Default Re: Oil in coolant (head gasket?)

i second that. i had a 95 sc1 with the same problem. it too was a crak in the head. from what im told, its a pretty common problem in the 95's

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Old 02-03-2007, 11:12 PM   #6
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My nickle is on a cracked head too. While a bad head gasket can cause it usually it is a head problem because even if the gasket is indeed bad, they just do not fail for no reason. Usually it is from some form of head warpage the changes the preload pressure on gasket and allows it to fail. What this means if it does in fact turn out to be the head gasket, you want to have the head and deck checked for straightness and trued if need be and not just slap another gasket in there.

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Old 02-03-2007, 11:17 PM   #7
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1995 SL1 4banger SOHC-

Symptoms:

1) Losing oil somewhere, no oil spots on the ground.
2) Coolant is loaded with oil (it's a grey greasy mess).
3) No coolant seems to be in the oil!

I thought it was a head gasket, now I'm not so sure...

I can't figure out why I don't see coolant in the oil.

What am I missing?
oil in the coolant ,but not coolant in the oil , small head gasket leak, clean out the coolant over flow ,drain anti freez ,re fill, and try some bars leak powder ,not liquid, add the bars leak through the radiatior upper house, , this should stop the leak from getting worse , other wise go to the mechanic and pay big bucks,

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Old 02-03-2007, 11:34 PM   #8
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oil in the coolant ,but not coolant in the oil , small head gasket leak, clean out the coolant over flow ,drain anti freez ,re fill, and try some bars leak powder ,not liquid, add the bars leak through the radiatior upper house, , this should stop the leak from getting worse , other wise go to the mechanic and pay big bucks,
Please do not pay any attention to this borderline criminal response. It is completely worthless information, even if your problem was a bad head gasket, ar's leaks will not fix the problem, but will only compound it by clogging your radiator, your heater core, and just about every other vital part of your cooling system. I'm sorry to say you have a cracked head, I am 100% sure of it. Time to start looking for a new head, or decide wether the car is worth it to you to have it fixed professionally. Nothing you couldn't do on your own in a weekend.

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Old 02-03-2007, 11:55 PM   #9
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1995 SL1 with oil in the coolant 99.99999999% chance that it is a cracked head.

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Old 02-04-2007, 09:06 AM   #10
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If you do find it's a cracked head and I think you will, the is a place that sells refurbished ones on ebay called Clearwater Cylinder Heads. They also have their own page. Several people on this forum have had good experiences dealing with them.

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Old 02-04-2007, 11:32 AM   #11
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I was afraid you guys were going to say cracked head...

I'm pulling it today and should know for sure within a few hours. I'll post the news. (and pics)

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Old 02-04-2007, 12:54 PM   #12
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Had oil in the coolant of my 99. CHnaged the cooland and haven't seen any back in there for over 70k miles. GuessI have been lucky.

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Old 02-05-2007, 02:22 AM   #13
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From what you have posted, it appears it is a head gasket.
After actually reading what I was posting too, I have no idea how I said Head gasket. I think my wife may have been talking to me while I was typing, and I typed what I was reading instead of what I wanted to say.

If oil is in the coolant jug but there isnt coolant in the oil, I almost guarantee it is a cracked head. My bad for passing off bad info. I blame my wife. Now if you tell her, I will never speak to you again!

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Old 02-05-2007, 03:19 AM   #14
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Sometimes you can see the crack in the head, simply by removing the cam cover. Somewhere in our galleries, there's a photo of such a crack, with wee drops of coolant pushing their way thru the crack.

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Old 02-05-2007, 04:33 PM   #15
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Yup, pull the valve cover. Then look at the front side of the first journal near the driver's side of the head. That's where most of the cracks are. That's where mine was.

If you're going to fix this, its a good time opportunity to replace the timing chain and, if your're using a lot of oil, maybe the rings.

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OOOOH bad bad tech. No one will have to tell your wife. She WILL find out and then you will be in a less comfortable living hell than you already are.

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OOOOH bad bad tech. No one will have to tell your wife. She WILL find out and then you will be in a less comfortable living hell than you already are.
Shhhhhhhhhh! She sits right next to me.... If she finds out, I now hold you accountable for the wrath I will have to endure.... You evil, evil man!

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Oh no you don't; your wife your wrath.

You just picked the wrong blamee (is that a word?). In the future remeber that it was the stupid dog/cat/ferret/goldfish/potbellied pig/hedgehog/iguana/budgie/small child or imaginary friend of your own choosing.

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Oh no you don't; your wife your wrath.

You just picked the wrong blamee (is that a word?). In the future remeber that it was the stupid dog/cat/ferret/goldfish/potbellied pig/hedgehog/iguana/budgie/small child or imaginary friend of your own choosing.
I see you have been married a while...

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don't matter if we tell her or not, she's probably like my wife, and will check the history when you head out the door. 20 plus years marriage = learning to delete history!

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