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Old 08-09-2005, 06:58 PM   #1
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Default Another gas milage question.....

I need input from you guys. I've had my VUE V6 3.5 FWD since april 2005 and i've talked to other VUE owners, and they get about 600 km from a full tank of gas. I do city only, and don't drive like a maniac, but i can't get anything better then about 380 km per tank , and that's with the fuel light coming on......Anyting wrong here ?

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Old 08-09-2005, 07:22 PM   #2
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Default Re: Another gas milage question.....

Yep, that seems a little low. Using US gals, and 1.6 km/mile conversion, I routinely run 450-500 km per tank around town, and 600+ on highway trips. I usually fill up at 14.xx US gals, but once stretched it to 660 km/15.5 US gal.

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Old 08-09-2005, 07:23 PM   #3
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hi jpg. I have been keeping track of my mileage because I read so much about gas mileage before I purchased my VUE this past January. You can see how my mileage has been with my AWD V6. All measurements are in US units. The page shows MPG, miles between fillup etc...

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A typical week for me is a 3 mile trip to work and back each day, 8 miles and back to friends house each day, and a 15 mile trip to the parents on Sunday. I average 45 MPH on the roads (even when I shouldn't )

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Old 08-09-2005, 09:26 PM   #4
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Any input from Canadians? Maybe our VUEs are different ?

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Old 08-10-2005, 06:56 AM   #5
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Default Re: Another gas milage question.....

I;ve owned my 04 Vue now for since last Thanksgiving. I have noticed that in the winter I was using about 300 miles per tank on average. Now that its summer, I have been pulling aroun 360 when on a highway. My last fillup was after a day in NYC and I only got about 220 mph on that fillup. It can vary a lot depending on the traffic I drive in.

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Old 08-10-2005, 07:25 AM   #6
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Default Re: Another gas milage question.....

It's practically impossible to judge your city mileage to others unless they are driving the same route you are.

If you're driving downtown Montreal, you're not going to get the posted mileage. 'City' driving to the EPA should be renamed 'Suburban with No Traffic'

I'm doing well to get 250 miles out of a tank of just driving around town, which is about 16-18 MPG

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Old 08-10-2005, 09:23 AM   #7
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Default Re: Another gas milage question.....

I'm getting a range of about 300 miles to a tank when the fuel light comes on. I drive mostly city... with alot of idling. I end up with 21-22mpg right now.

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Old 08-10-2005, 09:32 AM   #8
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Default Re: Another gas milage question.....

"Miles per tank" is a highly inaccurate measure of fuel economy. Unless you start with a full tank and end with a completely empty tank, you don't really know how much gas you used for that "tank." It depends on what you consider to be "empty:" the light, the needle on E, the needle on 1/4, etc. Gauges are inaccurate as well. My light may come on with 1 gallon left, and your light may come on with 3 gallons left.

I could say I get 300 miles out of a tank, but then again I fill up at 1/4 full.
You could say you get 400 miles per tank, but you fill up at E. Both of us get the same gas mileage, but different miles per tank.

Fill up the tank, stop when it clicks off, reset your trip odometer, and the next time you fill up stop when it clicks, divide the miles driven by the number of gallons you just put in.

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Old 08-10-2005, 09:46 AM   #9
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Fill up the tank, stop when it clicks off, reset your trip odometer, and the next time you fill up stop when it clicks, divide the miles driven by the number of gallons you just put in.

I know. This is how you "estimate" your mpg. That is how I arrived at my 21-22mpg "estimate". Everyone's experience will be different. There are alot of variables. It's always, at best, an estimate. I was just posting my experience.

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Old 08-10-2005, 10:58 AM   #10
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Default Re: Another gas milage question.....

I'm not looking for "absolutes"...but averages to see if i'm in the ball park, wich looks like i'm not at all ....

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Default Re: Another gas milage question.....

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I'm not looking for "absolutes"...but averages to see if i'm in the ball park, wich looks like i'm not at all ....
Your mileage seems to be in line with mine.

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Old 08-10-2005, 11:44 AM   #12
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I'm not looking for "absolutes"...but averages to see if i'm in the ball park, wich looks like i'm not at all ....

When I do real city driving, ours is in line. If you said that was a highway reading, I would say something is wrong.

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Old 08-10-2005, 12:35 PM   #13
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I need input from you guys. I've had my VUE V6 3.5 FWD since april 2005 and i've talked to other VUE owners, and they get about 600 km from a full tank of gas. I do city only, and don't drive like a maniac, but i can't get anything better then about 380 km per tank , and that's with the fuel light coming on......Anyting wrong here ?
The VUE 3.5L FWD/AWD is an interesting setup. The short 1st gear for the the 5-Speed AUTO will rev up to 3-3.5K minimum no matter how slow you accelerate. The 5th gear overdrive will NEVER engage unless you hit 80 Km/hr or greater. Therefore the CITY mileage is about half of what I get on the highway because of these 2 factors.

Therefore with only city driving [with the 24 MPG/38.4 KMPG (Imperial Gallon =4.5 L city rating in Canada], I will get only about 350-370 KM before the low fuel light comes on. This translates to about 20 MPG.

But on the Highway I can get between 650-700 (and I even got around 730 km when I kept the speed under 100km/h (about 60 mph). This translates to about 38 MPG (Imperial Gallon =4.5 L while a USG =3.8L)

Since it is a FWD I get about 10% better than the AWD versions.

Next time you take a trip out of town, you should be able to get over 600 km per tank (before low level light comes on). Check it out.

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Old 08-10-2005, 12:41 PM   #14
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I'm waiting for my mileage to improve as well. I have 800 miles on my VUE now, and I've calculated mileage both times I've filled up:

1st fillup: 21 MPG
2nd fillup: 23 MPG

This is with the 2.2L 5 speed! I really expected better numbers. Then again, I do have a heavy foot and I use the A/C 95% of the time (friggin' West Texas heat). My VUE is still new, though, so I'll see what the numbers are once she gets broken in better

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Old 08-10-2005, 01:22 PM   #15
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DTM1962 -- Thanks for the info

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Old 08-10-2005, 01:55 PM   #16
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The VUE 3.5L FWD/AWD is an interesting setup. The short 1st gear for the the 5-Speed AUTO will rev up to 3-3.5K minimum no matter how slow you accelerate. The 5th gear overdrive will NEVER engage unless you hit 80 Km/hr or greater. Therefore the CITY mileage is about half of what I get on the highway because of these 2 factors.

Therefore with only city driving [with the 24 MPG/38.4 KMPG (Imperial Gallon =4.5 L city rating in Canada], I will get only about 350-370 KM before the low fuel light comes on. This translates to about 20 MPG.

But on the Highway I can get between 650-700 (and I even got around 730 km when I kept the speed under 100km/h (about 60 mph). This translates to about 38 MPG (Imperial Gallon =4.5 L while a USG =3.8L)

Since it is a FWD I get about 10% better than the AWD versions.

Next time you take a trip out of town, you should be able to get over 600 km per tank (before low level light comes on). Check it out.

About that first gear...mine likes to shift at about 3k for first gear...but by acceslerating slightly slower than most do in NJ, I can get it to shift around 2.5.

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About that first gear...mine likes to shift at about 3k for first gear...but by acceslerating slightly slower than most do in NJ, I can get it to shift around 2.5.
I did a little experiment on the way back to work.

At about 2200 RPM in 1st gear, I let off the accelerator..causing the tranny to go to 2nd..and then going from there.

It seemed to get me about a 10% improvement according to my scangauge..but that was only one trip and would like to get an average over several trips.

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Old 08-10-2005, 03:09 PM   #18
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On my 2003 VUE with 3.0L/auto, I just changed out the air filter for the first time at 27,130 miles. The filter didn't look bad, but since I had the new Saturn replacement and had planned to change it around 30,000 anyway, I did it before the oil change. The next day I had an 80-mile round trip to a band job after driving around running errands. The gauge didn't get down to 3/4 until just about 100 miles, which was a big departure from normal for similar driving. I'm still driving that tank of gas, and the gauge indication is still higher than it would normally be for the mileage driven. I won't know for sure until I fill up again, but so far it looks like a 10% improvement. I have never experienced that much difference from an air filter change on any vehicle, but I mention it in case anyone is experiencing so-so mileage and also has over 20,000 miles on the air filter or has driven regularly in dusty conditions, so they will consider changing out the filter to see if it makes any difference.
If it turns out that for some reason the VUE is particularly responsive to less restriction in the air filter, I may consider a low-restriction filter.

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Old 08-10-2005, 03:22 PM   #19
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I would not do that...especially if you drive in dusty areas as you say. Imagine all that dirt that was restricting your airflow getting into the engine. I am no mechanic, but that does not sound like a great idea. If you are that concerned, just replace your filter more frequently. I replaced mine at 15k. I go thru them frequently though. I frequent dusty construction sites and dirt roads...try driving about 30 miles behind a logging truck on unpaved roads. The car and filter turns brown. I have been known to vacuum my filters off in between changes. I do not know if that is good for them or not, but I do it.

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Old 08-11-2005, 11:40 PM   #20
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There are filters that manage better filtration with less restriction than the stock filter. I have used these in the past on different vehicles with little to no effect on gas mileage. They are expensive and a PITA to clean, but you only have to clean and oil them every 50,000 miles. However, if it turns out my VUE really does respond well to a new/clean filter, I may try a K&N or Air Hawg if they are made for my application, which is not likely. I'm still on the same tank, just having hit the 1/4 mark, and I have about 30 more miles than I usually do. It's hot and humid here, and the AC runs all the time the vehicle is turned on. If this improvement holds, it may even be better later in the year when I can turn off the compressor and cut the fan back. Mine was rated 19 to 25 mpg, and I usually get 20 to 21.5 combined driving. Right now I estimate I'm getting about 23.5. This gas was from the same station I usually go to. The oil change I did when I changed the air filter was the same oil I have been using.

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