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Old 07-18-2014, 12:53 PM   #1
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my husband has a 03 ion. the other day he drove it school it was fine. he took it to the little store for lunch and it has developed a rough idle and loss of power with a check engine light. we have it hooked up to two different code readers and neither of will work on the car. so we replaced the plugs, no change. so he checked the injectors and replaced on of them, didn't help. so I found this website. the suggestion was the from another rough idle was to replace the icm so we did and again no change. any ideas now would greatly appreciated


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Old 07-18-2014, 01:25 PM   #2
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have you replaced the coil pack?
the coil pack is the single large black piece that has 4 boots for the plugs. the ICM mounts on top of it.

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Old 07-18-2014, 01:36 PM   #3
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It would really help if you could find out what code is causing the check engine light to come on.

Auto Zone and Advance Auto Parts will usually read out the codes for free.

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Old 07-18-2014, 01:50 PM   #4
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that too.
suspecting spark plugs, coil pack, and ICM is ususlly a start, as its usually the case 75% of the time.
the only way to really tell, like Mville said, is to get those codes. could be anything

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Old 07-19-2014, 02:13 AM   #5
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thank you very much. we finally figured out why we weren't getting a code reading... FUSE, should've known. and we got cylinder number 4 not firing. so the next step is coil pack like was mentioned.

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Old 07-21-2014, 05:01 PM   #6
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sometimes something simple like that can make a huge difference, which reminds me of something to check on my neighbors truck, which had the same issue not being able to get the OBDII software connecting to the vehicle.

the coil pack is not entirely expensive. at the time when i was changing mine, autozone had them for a touch over $100.

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When the old spark plugs were removed for replacement, did anyone 'read' the plugs? Black oily deposits = oil burning, dry black deposits = excessive fuel mixture or misfiring from that coil, tan white = normal, blistered white = excessively lean fuel mixture. Color reading is based on the center ceramic cone that's white when new.

While "new school" uses training, experience, and computers like readers to retrieve error codes, "old school" still works for the basics like checking for blown fuses first (in this case the power to the power outlet/reader-DLC connector) and relying on long established troubleshooting guides like spark plug reading. Most spark plug manufacturers still have plug charts to show the ways a plug becomes fouled. Anyone can benefit from mixing old with new school..........

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Old 07-22-2014, 02:31 AM   #8
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no the plugs were definitely just "read". there was no unusual color change no build up but most important there was no little node in the center where there should of been. but hat was not the problem. the problem was the coil pack and that is fixed now. but it took a code to tell us that

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the codes always get you in the right direction. wasnt the case with my S10 i used to have. after getting the steering column changed, it would never throw a code anymore, which made things fun lol

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