SaturnFans.com
what's new (beta) - classifieds - forums - photos


Go Back   SaturnFans.com Forums > Models > Saturn S-Series > S-Series General
Register FAQ Members List Groups Calendar Chat Room Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-11-2019, 01:24 PM   #1
dummo
Master Member
dummo is a glorious beacon of lightdummo is a glorious beacon of lightdummo is a glorious beacon of lightdummo is a glorious beacon of lightdummo is a glorious beacon of lightdummo is a glorious beacon of light
 
dummo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 2,583
 

1997 SW2
Default Blowout!!!

I went to get my jack out of my SW2 for use as an aid in repairing my mother in-law's outside staircase and noticed that my never used Space-Saver Spare had exploded at some time in the last year-ish. Exposed steel wires and ripped open tread. This is a moderately rusty rim as the wheel well does get moist inside and I found it with about a half inch of water in it when I first purchased the car. I am open for suggestions as to the best and easiest way to replace the thing.

Q: Does a full size spare fit in the well? (If it does then why did they put in a space-saver spare? money???)

Thanks in advance for all the good advice.

...
• 1997 SW2 used 12/29/2011 with 124,200 -27 mpg
• 2004 Ion3 new 11/2003 (totaled) 11/2011 -23 mpg
• 1994 SL1 new traded
• 1992 SL2 new traded for above
* 1986 Yamaha ce50 Jog -100 mpg

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to dummo's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help dummo reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
dummo is offline   Reply With Quote
SaturnFans.com Sponsored Links
Old 11-11-2019, 01:43 PM   #2
onlinebiker
Advanced Member
onlinebiker is a glorious beacon of lightonlinebiker is a glorious beacon of lightonlinebiker is a glorious beacon of lightonlinebiker is a glorious beacon of lightonlinebiker is a glorious beacon of lightonlinebiker is a glorious beacon of light
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: sw michigan
Posts: 870
Default Re: Blowout!!!

Stop by.

I have a few.



Btw - is the exhaust heat shield in front or the side of the well intact?

...
92 SC2
93 SC2
96 SC2
97 SL2
97 SC2
99 SC2
01 SC2
02 SC2
02 SL2
parts
2 94 SC2 parted out
2 96 SC2
98 SC2 - rusty frame minus engine.

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to onlinebiker's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help onlinebiker reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
onlinebiker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2019, 02:10 PM   #3
454cid
Member
454cid is a jewel in the rough454cid is a jewel in the rough454cid is a jewel in the rough
 
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 219
Default Re: Blowout!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by dummo View Post
I went to get my jack out of my SW2 for use as an aid in repairing my mother in-law's outside staircase and noticed that my never used Space-Saver Spare had exploded at some time in the last year-ish. Exposed steel wires and ripped open tread. This is a moderately rusty rim as the wheel well does get moist inside and I found it with about a half inch of water in it when I first purchased the car. I am open for suggestions as to the best and easiest way to replace the thing.
Weird, mine was burst too.... it was also very well used, so I assumed it happened during use. I never asked my brother-in-law about it.

Quote:
Q: Does a full size spare fit in the well? (If it does then why did they put in a space-saver spare? money???)
I pulled a 14" fullsize wheel from a salvage yard car and it almost fits flat.... close enough for me. I don't have the carpet or board in the truck anymore, Though.

...
2000 SL2 Automatic (back on the road) 17X,XXX miles.
1999 Chevy K3500

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to 454cid's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help 454cid reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
454cid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2019, 02:28 PM   #4
Waiex191
Master Member
Waiex191 is a jewel in the roughWaiex191 is a jewel in the roughWaiex191 is a jewel in the rough
 
Waiex191's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Poplar Grove, IL
Posts: 2,146

1999 SL2
1998 SC2
Default Re: Blowout!!!

Both my Saturns blew their spare in the trunk. Both got new tires. See this thread:
http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60735

On the last page I posted this link:
https://m.tirerack.com/tires/tires.j...170924131058:s

Any junkyard or onlinebiker tire is likely to be past its freshness date.

...
Bryan Cotton
'99 SL2, 5SP bought new
Rebuilt at 204,067 September 2017
Engine, subframe, diff pin mod, brake lines, headliner, alternator, and so on!
'98 SC2, 5SP bought 2018

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to Waiex191's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help Waiex191 reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
Waiex191 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2019, 03:30 PM   #5
Waiex191
Master Member
Waiex191 is a jewel in the roughWaiex191 is a jewel in the roughWaiex191 is a jewel in the rough
 
Waiex191's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Poplar Grove, IL
Posts: 2,146

1999 SL2
1998 SC2
Default Re: Blowout!!!

Here is one of my blowouts.

...
Bryan Cotton
'99 SL2, 5SP bought new
Rebuilt at 204,067 September 2017
Engine, subframe, diff pin mod, brake lines, headliner, alternator, and so on!
'98 SC2, 5SP bought 2018

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to Waiex191's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help Waiex191 reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
Waiex191 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2019, 03:41 PM   #6
454cid
Member
454cid is a jewel in the rough454cid is a jewel in the rough454cid is a jewel in the rough
 
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 219
Default Re: Blowout!!!

Oh wow! That's bad!

...
2000 SL2 Automatic (back on the road) 17X,XXX miles.
1999 Chevy K3500

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to 454cid's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help 454cid reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
454cid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2019, 11:15 PM   #7
dummo
Master Member
dummo is a glorious beacon of lightdummo is a glorious beacon of lightdummo is a glorious beacon of lightdummo is a glorious beacon of lightdummo is a glorious beacon of lightdummo is a glorious beacon of light
 
dummo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 2,583
 

1997 SW2
Default Re: Blowout!!!

Okay, since the compact spare should only be put on the back anyway and I have little drum brakes on the rear, I am going to see if I can find a 13 or 14 in thin steel rim and put a sorta tall thin (ordinary) tire on it and see if I can come up with a wheel/tire combination that fits in the well. Back in the day (late 1970’s) the common tire sizes were thin tall sneakers the likes of 155/78R-13. I think VW beetles were running 155/78R-15 which is a tall skinny setup which I haven’t seen recently until I saw BMW’s contemporary electric compact car.

Thought: Maybe there is a dressing like Armor All that retards the deterioration of the ‘rubber’ and keeps your compact spare from drying out. ...and a time machine to go back and apply it.

Thought: the Ion’s Compact spare should also fit so that means a wider window of opportunity for finding an unused used one..

...
• 1997 SW2 used 12/29/2011 with 124,200 -27 mpg
• 2004 Ion3 new 11/2003 (totaled) 11/2011 -23 mpg
• 1994 SL1 new traded
• 1992 SL2 new traded for above
* 1986 Yamaha ce50 Jog -100 mpg

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to dummo's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help dummo reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
dummo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2019, 02:14 AM   #8
fetchitfido
Super Member
fetchitfido has a brilliant futurefetchitfido has a brilliant futurefetchitfido has a brilliant futurefetchitfido has a brilliant futurefetchitfido has a brilliant futurefetchitfido has a brilliant futurefetchitfido has a brilliant futurefetchitfido has a brilliant futurefetchitfido has a brilliant futurefetchitfido has a brilliant futurefetchitfido has a brilliant future
 
fetchitfido's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 14,357
 

2001 SC2
Default Re: Blowout!!!

A 175/70R14 fits about perfect in place of the temp spare. Dropping to 65 from 70 would probably let it fit perfect; either one would last longer in-use then the temp spare.

I believe with the right offset (and inner wheel shape) even 13" wheels fit over the front calipers, some auto-x guys would run those tiny wheels & tires for better acceleration and less weight IIRC.

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to fetchitfido's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help fetchitfido reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
fetchitfido is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2019, 04:40 AM   #9
Zeebins
Advanced Member
Zeebins is a splendid one to beholdZeebins is a splendid one to beholdZeebins is a splendid one to beholdZeebins is a splendid one to beholdZeebins is a splendid one to beholdZeebins is a splendid one to beholdZeebins is a splendid one to behold
 
Zeebins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 821
 

1997 SL2
Default Re: Blowout!!!

There are 13 inch wheels out there that fit, not sure which ones though. Would having 1 wheel be 2 inches smaller than the rest be safe? I've driven on the spare a few times and that already feels kinda weird.

...
97 SL2, auto, 116K miles
Powered by Plastic

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to Zeebins's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help Zeebins reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
Zeebins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2019, 03:32 PM   #10
dummo
Master Member
dummo is a glorious beacon of lightdummo is a glorious beacon of lightdummo is a glorious beacon of lightdummo is a glorious beacon of lightdummo is a glorious beacon of lightdummo is a glorious beacon of light
 
dummo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 2,583
 

1997 SW2
Default Re: Blowout!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeebins View Post
There are 13 inch wheels out there that fit, not sure which ones though. Would having 1 wheel be 2 inches smaller than the rest be safe? I've driven on the spare a few times and that already feels kinda weird.
a smaller wheel with a taller thinner tire is just a possible cheap and readily available from the store shelf option once I figure out what's possible. It is still just for temporary use and on the rear axle only where it won't put unnecessary strain on the transaxle and for safety and handling reasons - the outer circumference is the critical measurement so a tire as close in height to the other 3 is desired. Wrapping a tape measure around the tire will give you a good and pretty accurate measure of the circumference and this measure does vary greatly between tires of the same size from different manufacturers. (I know this first hand after putting two new tires on my wife's Pacifica and had to buy two more right away or mess up the 4WD system)

I remember that my 1979 Honda civic sported 12 inch rims. (155/75R-12's I believe)

...
• 1997 SW2 used 12/29/2011 with 124,200 -27 mpg
• 2004 Ion3 new 11/2003 (totaled) 11/2011 -23 mpg
• 1994 SL1 new traded
• 1992 SL2 new traded for above
* 1986 Yamaha ce50 Jog -100 mpg

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to dummo's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help dummo reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
dummo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2019, 10:40 AM   #11
nealt
Member
nealt is on a distinguished road
 
nealt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Peoria,IL
Posts: 110

1997 SC2
1999 SC2
Default Re: Blowout!!!

My kid just got a flat in his '99 sc2 tire, and we just found out that the spare must have blown up over the summer.

I like the idea of using a 175/65r14 tire. Will that fit on the compact spare rim, or will I need to get another rim?

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to nealt's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help nealt reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
nealt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2019, 12:04 PM   #12
dummo
Master Member
dummo is a glorious beacon of lightdummo is a glorious beacon of lightdummo is a glorious beacon of lightdummo is a glorious beacon of lightdummo is a glorious beacon of lightdummo is a glorious beacon of light
 
dummo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 2,583
 

1997 SW2
Default Re: Blowout!!!

My plan is to go to a Town Fair Tire and find an ordinary but smaller size 14in tire that fits in the well first and then see if it fits on my skinny 'donut' rim.

That's step 1 of my plan.

...
• 1997 SW2 used 12/29/2011 with 124,200 -27 mpg
• 2004 Ion3 new 11/2003 (totaled) 11/2011 -23 mpg
• 1994 SL1 new traded
• 1992 SL2 new traded for above
* 1986 Yamaha ce50 Jog -100 mpg

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to dummo's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help dummo reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
dummo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2019, 01:26 PM   #13
Waiex191
Master Member
Waiex191 is a jewel in the roughWaiex191 is a jewel in the roughWaiex191 is a jewel in the rough
 
Waiex191's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Poplar Grove, IL
Posts: 2,146

1999 SL2
1998 SC2
Default Re: Blowout!!!

I've changed both my tires by hand using motorcycle tools. Those space saver rims are pretty narrow. Not sure a real tire would work. I'd probably go with an SL 14" rim instead.

With that said, I'm happy to have new space saver tires in the trunk. If I ever rebuild the coupe, I might cut out the tire well and weld in one from a Buick Century.

...
Bryan Cotton
'99 SL2, 5SP bought new
Rebuilt at 204,067 September 2017
Engine, subframe, diff pin mod, brake lines, headliner, alternator, and so on!
'98 SC2, 5SP bought 2018

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to Waiex191's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help Waiex191 reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
Waiex191 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2019, 12:13 AM   #14
A2Saturn
Member
A2Saturn is on a distinguished road
 
A2Saturn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Jeffersonville, Indiana
Posts: 174

1994 SL1
Default Re: Blowout!!!

I tried fitting a 175/70/14 tire with about 2/32 tread left in the wheel well, but it really didn't fit. I've replaced the compact spare tire once, and I'll go with the Tire Rack option that Waiex went with next time around. I've only had 1 flat in 26+ years owning my car, so getting another flat is not a real worry of mine. Try using 303 protectant on your tires to help them last longer.

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to A2Saturn's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help A2Saturn reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
A2Saturn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2019, 12:22 AM   #15
Zeebins
Advanced Member
Zeebins is a splendid one to beholdZeebins is a splendid one to beholdZeebins is a splendid one to beholdZeebins is a splendid one to beholdZeebins is a splendid one to beholdZeebins is a splendid one to beholdZeebins is a splendid one to behold
 
Zeebins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 821
 

1997 SL2
Default Re: Blowout!!!

As far as I know, my space had been used 3 times by me and twice by my father in the last 19 years. I wonder how much life it has left in it, lol.

...
97 SL2, auto, 116K miles
Powered by Plastic

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to Zeebins's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help Zeebins reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
Zeebins is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
RT43 Blowout? Tiger S-Series General 5 02-17-2015 10:41 AM
Tire Blowout@80mph aidan80 S-Series Tech 4 11-18-2009 11:07 AM
Radiator hose blowout... help!!! bskicrash1 S-Series General 3 08-10-2006 12:13 AM
Ps2 Blowout Sell getz999 Classifieds 2 03-19-2006 11:44 PM
PC Blowout Sale!!! getz999 Classifieds 14 08-17-2005 01:56 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:14 AM.

Advanced Forum Search | Advanced Photo Search


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SaturnFans.com. The Saturn Enthusiasts Site.