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Old 11-20-2008, 06:45 PM   #1
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Default Shift Flare TSB question

Tomorrow, I'm picking up an 04 Ion3 QC with a broken VTi transmission. I'll be swapping in an Aisin 5 speed trans from an 04 Ion sedan. I haven't read the whole bulletin, but I thought I read somewhere that the later model 04 Aisin's didn't need the updates to address shift flare. Does anybody know the serial number cutoff for the 04 Aisins involved in the recall. I obviously want one of those later model transmissons.

Also, does anybody have the complete TSB that they could post? TSB #03-07-30-052 or TSB #03-07-30-052a. Thanks.
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Old 11-26-2008, 09:46 PM   #2
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Default Re: Shift Flare TSB question

post the trans part number(on tag) i can get the info
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Old 11-29-2008, 12:58 PM   #3
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let me know how that goes i just bought an 03 ion with the cvt....i think the trans is shot....i keep finding contradictory info regaurding a trans swap...that is the same trans i would ideally like to put in...if you would share any info on a how to that would be great...all this crazyness about people saying you can't do it is putting me off...thanx
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Old 11-29-2008, 01:12 PM   #4
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let me be the first one to say you can do it, and you should do it, they're far superior to the CVT unit, the only thing is that no one has done it yet (only god knows why), what you can't do is put in the GM four speed auto, the TCM isn't compatible with the old ECUs.
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Old 11-30-2008, 12:41 PM   #5
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oh and thanx for replying...you seems to be the guy who should have a positive charge....i have friends willing to help me do it...but im not the kinda guy with allot of disposable income...i own a tattoo shop in pa i opened this year and winters are always rough...so im on a budget...i can afford the parts if the swap works just not any extra for technical expertise if i get hung up...people think tattoos are expensive ha
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:18 PM   #6
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from what I've heard, all you need is the TCM, the wiring harness, the transmission, and the driver's side driveshaft, the CV shaft may not need to be replaced, I'd call a driveshaft manufacturer and check if the 3/8 of an inch makes a difference
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Old 12-01-2008, 01:25 PM   #7
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The serial number for the Aisin trans I bought is 03EV704517. I bought a trans computer from a different vehicle. I'll have to take the car to a dealership to get the TCM and PCM programmed, correct?
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Old 12-01-2008, 02:07 PM   #8
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try plugging it in and going, you may not have to, at the very most, you'll need the TCM flashed, the PCM should play nice
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Old 12-01-2008, 05:26 PM   #9
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awesome if you get this to work im sure you will be a great help to allot of people...myself included for sure...when do you assume youll have the project done by?
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:45 PM   #10
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Hopefully, in the next couple weeks, I'll have the car on the road.
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:19 AM   #11
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well im following suite...i found a transmission and a tcm...im going to order them...maybe ill have everything within the next 2 weeks...the one i found is an 03 with 30,000 miles and a 90 day warranty shipped to my door for 225 and the tcm is 60 bucks...
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Old 12-02-2008, 11:48 AM   #12
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Just so you know, you'll also need the entire under hood wiring harness since the Aisin TCM has different connectors, and the Aisin trans also has more sensors. Be sure to get all three transmission mounts with the Aisin since it has different bolt patterns for the mounts. Another little thing that is different is the mounting bracket for the PCM and TCM.
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good to know, maybe if this is successful you can start a step by step thread that can be a sticky, this is something that is long overdue.
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:32 PM   #14
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awesome ill see if i can get it all here soon...maybe i can find one on car-parts at a local scrap yard
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Old 12-07-2008, 02:10 PM   #15
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having one hell of a time finding the wiring harness...i can find the tcm and the trans but thats it..no mounts no harness...everyone that has one in a junkyard around here wants a ridiculios ammount for just the trans and no one seems to have the rest...still searching
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having one hell of a time finding the wiring harness...i can find the tcm and the trans but thats it..no mounts no harness...everyone that has one in a junkyard around here wants a ridiculios amount for just the trans and no one seems to have the rest...still searching
The wiring harness and the trans mounts were the most difficult for me to find also. I'll make a new thread this evening where I summarize everything I've done so far in this swap.
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