SaturnFans.com
what's new (beta) - classifieds - forums - photos


Go Back   SaturnFans.com Forums > Models > Saturn S-Series > S-Series Tech
Register FAQ Members List Groups Calendar Chat Room Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-29-2004, 12:15 AM   #1
nkyleft
Member
nkyleft is on a distinguished road
 
nkyleft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Bowling Green, Kentucky
Posts: 283
 
Default won't shift into gears

Well I have manual 92 sc with 135k miles on it. It's nearly impossible to shift gears...I assume my transaxle is busted. How much to replace that and any other ideas?

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to nkyleft's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help nkyleft reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
nkyleft is offline  
SaturnFans.com Sponsored Links
Old 12-29-2004, 04:21 AM   #2
wolfman
Super Member
wolfman is a glorious beacon of lightwolfman is a glorious beacon of lightwolfman is a glorious beacon of lightwolfman is a glorious beacon of lightwolfman is a glorious beacon of lightwolfman is a glorious beacon of light
 
wolfman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Texas
Posts: 12,066
 
Default Re: won't shift into gears

A better description of the exact problem you are having would be of a great help....It could very well be something simple. (Never assume anything)

...
Old Saturns never die, people KILL them, so check your damn oil!
"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth." Albert Einstein

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to wolfman's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help wolfman reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
wolfman is offline  
Old 12-29-2004, 01:53 PM   #3
nkyleft
Member
nkyleft is on a distinguished road
 
nkyleft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Bowling Green, Kentucky
Posts: 283
 
Default Re: won't shift into gears

Ummm well I've noticed it's been much harder to shift the car into gear....but I was still able too. We just had 10 inches of snow and 0 degree weather so i figured it was just cold. Last night driving home it was nearly impossible to shift gears. Today I went out and tried and I can't get the car in any gear. Sounds like the transaxle to me. Thats about it. It's a manual.

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to nkyleft's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help nkyleft reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
nkyleft is offline  
Old 12-29-2004, 02:13 PM   #4
Razorbak
Master Member
Razorbak is on a distinguished road
 
Razorbak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 2,860
 

1996 SL2
Default Re: won't shift into gears

Or it could simply be a problem with the linkages between the gearshift lever and the cables or the cables and the transaxle.

If you look down between the air intake snorkle and the brake master cylinder with the aid of a flashlight, you can see the cable connections to the transaxle down on the driver's side in the rear of the engine bay. Are those cables still connected? Do they still have their clips in place?

Transaxle cables

If you can't see them, it might help to remove the air intake snorkle between the throttle body and the air filter box.

Last edited by Razorbak; 12-29-2004 at 02:19 PM..

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to Razorbak's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help Razorbak reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
Razorbak is offline  
Old 12-29-2004, 03:00 PM   #5
nkyleft
Member
nkyleft is on a distinguished road
 
nkyleft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Bowling Green, Kentucky
Posts: 283
 
Default Re: won't shift into gears

From what I can tell the cable look good and in shape with clips and everything. They look like the ones in the picture

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to nkyleft's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help nkyleft reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
nkyleft is offline  
Old 12-29-2004, 03:03 PM   #6
Razorbak
Master Member
Razorbak is on a distinguished road
 
Razorbak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 2,860
 

1996 SL2
Default Re: won't shift into gears

It it hard to shift the cable, like something on the end is binding, or does the shift lever float pretty freely, but feels like it's disconnected?

I'm trying to isolate the source of the problem between two potential locations: (a) the cables/connectors, or (b) the transaxle assembly itself.

(There are still more connectors than the ones you just located, but they are a little harder to examine since they are under the shifter housing.)

Does it shift easily when the engine is off? Does it only present resistance when the engine is running?

Those last two questions might help isolate a potential problem with the clutch itself.

Last edited by Razorbak; 12-29-2004 at 03:09 PM..

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to Razorbak's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help Razorbak reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
Razorbak is offline  
Old 12-29-2004, 03:14 PM   #7
nkyleft
Member
nkyleft is on a distinguished road
 
nkyleft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Bowling Green, Kentucky
Posts: 283
 
Default Re: won't shift into gears

1. Shift the cable? Do you mean I should go wiggle the cable the cable itself?

2. It shifts easily when the engine is off and when the clutch is not depressed and pressed. Yes, only when the engine is running is it impossible to get the car in gear.

If it's the clutch I'm not going to replace it bc it would cost more than the blue book value of the car.

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to nkyleft's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help nkyleft reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
nkyleft is offline  
Old 12-29-2004, 04:25 PM   #8
Razorbak
Master Member
Razorbak is on a distinguished road
 
Razorbak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 2,860
 

1996 SL2
Default Re: won't shift into gears

Quote:
Originally Posted by nkyleft
1. Shift the cable? Do you mean I should go wiggle the cable the cable itself?
Sorry, I meant is it hard to shift the lever, like something on the end is binding, or does the shift lever float pretty freely, but feels like it's disconnected? If it floated freely and felt disconnected, then that would indicate a cable connection problem undeneath the shift housing.

Quote:
2. It shifts easily when the engine is off and when the clutch is not depressed and pressed. Yes, only when the engine is running is it impossible to get the car in gear.

If it's the clutch I'm not going to replace it bc it would cost more than the blue book value of the car.
Sounds like you have a clutch problem, and not a transmission problem per se. Do you have access to a set of tools, and are you mechanically inclined? Do you have any friends that are handy with tools and might be willing to do you a favor or work for a couple of cases of beer?

If so, then the parts for a Saturn clutch replacement are only about $130 from ClutchCity.com. The labor is the most expensive part of the repair.

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to Razorbak's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help Razorbak reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
Razorbak is offline  
Old 12-29-2004, 04:28 PM   #9
nkyleft
Member
nkyleft is on a distinguished road
 
nkyleft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Bowling Green, Kentucky
Posts: 283
 
Default Re: won't shift into gears

Well I'm not the best mechanic but I have done a few things to my car. Installed my injen intake, replaced the fuel filter myself, pcm, ects.....clutch might be too much for me.

Thanks for the help.

My dad think it's time to get a newer car. Time to go shopping.

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to nkyleft's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help nkyleft reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
nkyleft is offline  
Old 12-29-2004, 06:05 PM   #10
sherlock.holmes
Junior Member
sherlock.holmes is on a distinguished road
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 12

2004 ION Red Line
Default Re: won't shift into gears

I had this problem about a year ago with my 94 Saturn SC2. Took it to the dealer because I don't trust most mechanics with drivetrain problems. Anyway it turned out to be a soleniod on the hydrolic clutch that had been leeking and needed to be replaced. At the dealer it cost about $350 to have it fixed and the clutch has been fine ever since. I should also mention that I now have over 192k miles on the original clutch.

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to sherlock.holmes's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help sherlock.holmes reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
sherlock.holmes is offline  
Old 12-29-2004, 06:48 PM   #11
Razorbak
Master Member
Razorbak is on a distinguished road
 
Razorbak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 2,860
 

1996 SL2
Default Re: won't shift into gears

Quote:
Originally Posted by sherlock.holmes
I had this problem about a year ago with my 94 Saturn SC2. Took it to the dealer because I don't trust most mechanics with drivetrain problems. Anyway it turned out to be a soleniod on the hydrolic clutch that had been leeking and needed to be replaced. At the dealer it cost about $350 to have it fixed and the clutch has been fine ever since. I should also mention that I now have over 192k miles on the original clutch.
Actually, the hydraulic system for the clutch is pretty easy to replace (a lot easier than the clutch itself) and you can probably find a used one at a junkyard for just a few bones. If that is indeed the problem, then this might be a relatively inexpensive DIY project.

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to Razorbak's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help Razorbak reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
Razorbak is offline  
Old 12-29-2004, 11:47 PM   #12
ssicarman
Super Member
ssicarman is a splendid one to beholdssicarman is a splendid one to beholdssicarman is a splendid one to beholdssicarman is a splendid one to beholdssicarman is a splendid one to beholdssicarman is a splendid one to beholdssicarman is a splendid one to behold
 
ssicarman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Western Canada
Posts: 10,406
 
Default Re: won't shift into gears

Like Wolfman said a better description of the problem is in order.

Hard to go into gear only with the engine running Most likely not an internal problem to the trans.
Where is the clutch pedal engaging the clutch? Low on the pedal or high on the pedal? Does the pedal feel normal? Easy smooth operation?

...
A lousy day in paradise is still a day in paradise.

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to ssicarman's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help ssicarman reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
ssicarman is offline  
Closed Thread



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hard shift upper gears... marc7242 S-Series Tech 0 05-26-2009 07:46 PM
Sometimes hard to shift gears... jk3006 S-Series Tech 10 02-04-2009 10:54 AM
No Clutch Pedal: But will shift gears?? TIMSPEED S-Series Tech 2 10-07-2007 11:38 PM
My Auto Tranny Doesn't Shift...it Slams Between the Gears dandydan S-Series Tech 21 04-25-2007 02:27 PM
My 96 SL revs high when you shift it into higher gears paumcd S-Series General 6 03-22-2007 03:51 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:33 AM.

Advanced Forum Search | Advanced Photo Search


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SaturnFans.com. The Saturn Enthusiasts Site.