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Old 05-06-2007, 11:59 AM   #1
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Anyone have a idea what the purpose of this screened opening is.It was suggested it was a cabin inlet, but i don't believe that is the case.

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Old 05-06-2007, 12:36 PM   #2
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Default Re: Screened Opening ?

That screened opening is the vent to your HVAC vents in the interior of the cabin.

Keep the screen on and clear of leaves or other junk so the vent passage is kept clear and you continue to get good airflow.

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Old 05-06-2007, 12:45 PM   #3
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The reason i don't believe it is a vent for the cabin is.There is no way the air can get in from this opening.Take a close look at the marks the seal left on the hood.It makes a complete seal.No way for any air to get in.

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Old 05-06-2007, 01:09 PM   #4
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I read about this from a post where member hsvSc2 asked an interior fan question.
Wolfman posted a reply about this Oval shaped opening 3x 1.5 inches being the outside air intake port for the HVAC system. He described it exactly as You showed in your picture-- small screen covered by a foam perimeter.
This was posted 5/1/07.

I had a problem with one side of my interior center vent not blowing air like it was clogged.
After I found the above mentioned post I when out to my 98 SL and cleared leaves and dirt off the screen and I've got better air flow now.
I now it's hard to believe but Wolfman's right, it's a outside air intake port for the hvac system.

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Old 05-06-2007, 03:09 PM   #5
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Default Re: Screened Opening ?

It really does seem to seal onto the hood. It was a while ago that I looked at it, though, I'll mess with it some today.

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Old 05-06-2007, 03:30 PM   #6
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ahhh thanks redkees...an answer to a question I had been pondering for a while now.

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Old 05-06-2007, 03:41 PM   #7
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Default Re: Screened Opening ?

Take a look when the hood is closed.The hood is right against the seal.Why is there a seal there if not to seal something off.

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Old 05-06-2007, 04:09 PM   #8
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Take a look when the hood is closed.The hood is right against the seal.Why is there a seal there if not to seal something off.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/a...n06a/seal4.jpg
it looks like there are several small gaps there...perhaps that is where the fresh air comes in but most big hunks are kept out by seal and screen?

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Old 05-06-2007, 04:15 PM   #9
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Could the actual inlet be trough the side of the foam itself.

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Old 05-06-2007, 06:31 PM   #10
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I doubt its supposed to seal against the hood at all. Older S-Series cars had a rubber seal there. No mesh or anything. Just a thin rubber sheet that was sticky on the back.

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Old 05-06-2007, 09:12 PM   #11
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I have come to the conclusion that the foam around the screen opening is in fact the cabin filter.When you think about it,it makes perfect sense.The top of the foam seals against the hood. Leaving the only place for the air to go is through the foam.Not unlike a foam air filter you would see on a dirt bike.

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Old 05-06-2007, 09:55 PM   #12
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From what I can gather reading through the Saturn parts books and Factory Service Manuals. Its just a screen to keep debris from getting inside. In fact the name for that part is a screen. Its part number 21030781

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Old 05-06-2007, 09:59 PM   #13
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From what I can gather reading through the Saturn parts books and Factory Service Manuals. Its just a screen to keep debris from getting inside. In fact the name for that part is a screen. Its part number 21030781
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Old 05-07-2007, 12:51 AM   #14
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Is the screen supposed to be on top of the foam, or under the foam?

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Old 05-07-2007, 05:58 AM   #15
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Not unlike a foam air filter you would see on a dirt bike.
Or a lawnmower! Hey, did somebody say my Single Cam sounds like a lawnmower? Them's fightin words!

If the air goes thru the foam, it kind of make you wonder why the foam doesn't just have a flat cap over the top instead of sealing against the hood. Also, are you sure there isn't a paper cabin air filter that needs to be changed?

Anyone ever have washer fluid drip into the oval and spray into the cabin?

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Old 05-07-2007, 09:53 AM   #16
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Is the screen supposed to be on top of the foam, or under the foam?
Ideally, the screen would work better below the foam, with the setup the way it is (small prefilter=foam edge) it would not really matter. However, I would suggest placing it under the foam if replacing it.

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If the air goes thru the foam, it kind of make you wonder why the foam doesn't just have a flat cap over the top instead of sealing against the hood.
If it was flat, debris (especially leaves) would fall or be sucked on top of it, blocking the airflow. The way it's designed, nothing can block it unless it wraps completely around the filter (the screen only stops things from falling in while the hood is open... it doesn't do anything for the filtration).

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Is the screen supposed to be on top of the foam, or under the foam?
Mine is under the top piece of foam and on top of the bottom section....mine started to come apart so I need to stick it back together with something.

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Silicone works well for that.

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If it was flat, debris (especially leaves) would fall or be sucked on top of it, blocking the airflow. The way it's designed, nothing can block it unless it wraps completely around the filter (the screen only stops things from falling in while the hood is open... it doesn't do anything for the filtration).

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Apparently I didn't communicate clearly enough. I meant a flat top in addition to the oval shaped foam. The way it's designed, something can fall in and block it if the hood is open or if the foam fatigues and loses its contact with the underside of the hood. No big deal.

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