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Old 12-18-2018, 06:34 PM   #1
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Now that I have a Saturn with OBD2 I am interested in acquiring a Scanguage type device, but looking for other options that do not cost ~$200

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Old 12-18-2018, 06:54 PM   #2
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Sorry about the misspelling

SCANGAUGE

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Old 12-18-2018, 07:03 PM   #3
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I bought this one: http://gopointtech.com/products/
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Manufactured in Michigan with automotive grade components
If you have absolutely zero loyalty to a Made in U.S.A., then there are other options.

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Old 12-18-2018, 08:05 PM   #4
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I bought a new Scangauge off ebay for less than $100.
Can't beat a Scangauge. Small compact, easy to use,

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Old 12-18-2018, 10:24 PM   #5
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How about this scan tool on eBay?

TURBO GAUGE IV

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F302861188546

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Old 12-19-2018, 12:58 AM   #6
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The TurboGauge looks to be a poor quality knockoff. Perhaps this ScanGauge will do

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F223274718490

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Old 12-19-2018, 09:42 AM   #7
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That is about what I paid for mine, shipping included. You may not find a better deal.
Ebay link to Scangauge

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Old 12-19-2018, 11:17 AM   #8
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Ultragauge, around $75...

Displays 4, 6, or 8 engine sensors, and codes...

http://www.ultra-gauge.com/ultragauge/

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Old 12-19-2018, 10:44 PM   #9
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Thank you, laser3kw. Those are full feature ScanGauge units? Returned units tested in fully serviceable condition. I like the price. The UltraGauge looks good but I think I am leaning toward the ScanGauge, with its reputation.

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Old 12-19-2018, 10:51 PM   #10
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I use an ELM plug in and connect to android device with bluetooth. I use the BAFX branded one for about $20. Then you need an app, torque light is free.

I have a scangauge and was never clever enough to figure out how to utilize the extra features it has.

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Old 12-19-2018, 11:04 PM   #11
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If I were to go the ELM route, could I use one of my old smartphones as the monitor?

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Old 12-20-2018, 11:20 AM   #12
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If I were to go the ELM route, could I use one of my old smartphones as the monitor?
That's what I did. The Torque Pro app is five bucks, and I bought a cheap-ass ELM 327 for about seven bucks. Do yourself a favor though, and get a better quality ELM 327 for $20 or so. The one I have likes to crap out after about 30-45 minutes of driving and it only responds through wi-fi instead of Bluetooth.

I have Torque Pro installed on an old Samsung GT-i5510 phone. The phone drains real quick compared to my new phone (Galaxy J8), and the display is relatively small as well.

Question for other Torque users: what do you like to monitor for normal driving?

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Old 12-20-2018, 12:58 PM   #13
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Question for other Torque users: what do you like to monitor for normal driving?
everything I was looking for a free alternative to torque. I guess it's OK, but I cannot get a battery voltage, and I tried 2 diff. BAFX modules.

And yes, I've heard that the cheaper ELMs can be poor quality. BAFX seems to have a good rep and I have not had issues with mine in the few years I've had it. They do say they provide warranty support.
I am not sure if it drains the battery while sitting in the garage, so I end up disconnecting mine as I may only drive once a week.

Hopefully you can find a good spot to put the smartphone monitor, I have issues with sun glare washing the screen.

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Old 12-20-2018, 02:32 PM   #14
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If you have a laptop...forget the ELM327 based devices. Upgrade to something useful, like the VCX VXDiag Nano: https://www.amazon.com/VXDIAG-Tech2W...dp/B074365Q6H/

Not quite as portable as something you use with a phone, but the trade off is it's a super cheap Tech II alternative.

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Old 12-20-2018, 06:09 PM   #15
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Thank you, laser3kw. Those are full feature ScanGauge units? Returned units tested in fully serviceable condition. I like the price. The UltraGauge looks good but I think I am leaning toward the ScanGauge, with its reputation.
The unit I bought has all the features for that part number. Scanguage offers other types but this is by far the best featured unit for automotive. Mine wasn't a refurbished unit and it doesn't appear that theses are either. A quick note to the seller will confirm this. This unit has the ability to enter code to read other parameters besides the preinstalled list.
I all ready had one scangauge when I bought the second. You can hook then together and read 8 parameters at on if you wish. I am kind of nerdy that way. I like to play gas mileage games trying to always better my best. They also pay off when you get use to them, to spot potential problems before they become big problems, like elevated water temps = bad thermostat or waterpump.
My first unit was 15 plus years old and did not have all the current capabilities as the new ones. Plus, the display was fading. I contacted ScanGauge and they offer a update to the older units. For $25 they literally replaced everything but the original plastic case! And I dropped it in the mail on Saturday and had it back the following Saturday. Stellar customer service.

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Old 12-23-2018, 11:33 PM   #16
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I second mattwithcats on the UltraGauge.
I had one in my SC2 for years and loved it.
It went with the car because my new car has all the functions I want or need built into its display system already and I have a proper scan tool for diagnostics.
The car's new owner really had to talk me into selling it to him though because despite all of that I was planning to keep it just in case.
He loves the UltraGauge too and has mentioned that to me several times lately.

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Old 12-24-2018, 12:18 AM   #17
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DIYguy, with your additional endorsement, I am interested in the UG. Odd that the Bluetooth unit is about the same price. Nice thing about the ScanGauge is that the OBD2 port charges the device but I believe with the standalone UG one would need it plugged into the 12v

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12 volt power is supplied by the ODBII connector...

I use the wired version...

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Old 12-24-2018, 01:04 AM   #19
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Well with 2 glowing endorsements for the UltraGauge, I believe it is a quality product for its price-point and will hold up to years of use. Thank you DIYguy and mattwithcats

The fact that the wired unit is powered by the OBD2 port clinches the deal. What is your placement/mounting suggestion?

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It is indeed powered by the OBD2 port itself, and should remain plugged in there always.
I would also recommend the wired version for that reason if nothing else.
It has a method of determining when you shut off the ignition (voltage sag) so it automatically goes into a very low power sleep mode and wakes up quickly when you start the car.
You have several pages of gauges that you can set up as you wish with loads of options.
So many in fact that each of them could potentially be completely different.
These selections are not lost when power is lost or if the gauge is unplugged from the port.
If I had any complaint about it, it would have been that the display was monochrome (at least mine was).
However, given all that it did and all that it was capable of, so what?

The company used to have a deal where if you took their liability-limiting quiz you could get a few dollars refunded (not sure if they still do), making it a positive bargain.
I think I ended up paying around $65 net as a result.
Mine also had a photo sensor that would auto-dim it at night.
Pretty slick all in all.

I had an aftermarket radio and its mounting adapter had a pocket in it.
I attached the SG's mount into the pocket and it looked like it belonged there.
Then I tucked the wire behind the lower dash panel and tied it using adhesive tie blocks and tie wraps so it wouldn't sag or rattle.
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